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at Sheremetyevo they should get you onto a public bus to go to the 'aerovoksal' which is a bus station close to the metro. Thereafter use the metro system to get to your chosen hotel unless that hotel is miles away from any metro station.

Domodedovo is really nice.
You all need to hop onto the train which goes directly to Paveletsky Voksal train station which has a metro station attached to it. Thereafter use the metro to get to the hotel.

If you choose to try taking people in coaches or mini buses on the roads, then you will encounter traffic jams
sorry man but if a person decides to go by metro it's much better to get to "Rechnoy Vokzal" or "Planernaya" which both are at least 20 min closer to Sheremetyevo then "Aerovoksal" ( which was called so because in 50 it was the last station in line. since then Moscow became much bigger and metro lines longer).
talking about road chaos - rush hour in metro is the same time. remember only three million moskovites has cars other eleven millions use public transport. going by bus ( or bt train) to closest metro station - 30 min, to the hotel by metro 30 min and 10 min walk. but sure it much cheaper.

Shaun anyway it's your choice.
count people, count baggage, surplus tiredness. for one person it's easy to find the way in unknown town. may be even interesting. what about a bunch of teenagers loaded with bags&boards? if interesting have a look at Moscow City Guide - Metro Map - Moscowrealty.org - Moscow Real Estate, Moscow Apartments, Find an apartment in Moscow, Moscow Realty

green line top or reddish line top - these are the stations closest to sheremetyevo. Paveletskaya (where train from Domodedovo comes) is where circle line crosses dark-green (down). the station for Olympyisky is "Prospect Mira" where orange line crosses circle line (up). mind you'll need radial "Prospect Mira" nor circle these two synonymous stations are half kilometer one from another and different sides of prospect Mira avenue.
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thanks for all the intel

Hi Motobelka

Thanks for all your local knowledge, very helpful. I and Terri (team coach) and two parents, Liz and Janet are following the thread with great interest. Really cool to have hard local Intel, thanks.

Once I get the hotel confirmed I’ll let you know. On the subject of the “fixer” thanks for trying too sort that one out; it’s been doing my head in a bit. We do have one person travelling with us that comes from the Ukraine but I still think local knowledge is a must.

So many kids with us man!! If it was just myself on a bike, I wouldn’t be half as paranoid.

Shaun
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Dear Ms? motobelka,
As regards rechnoi voksal, you are probably correct as I haven't been through sheremetyevo for some years now. But I beg to differ on the merits of going on the metro. The metro will be a million times better than by road when it gets busy. The reason being I've yet to get stuck in a metro jam but i've spent many an unhappy hour in moscow traffic jams. Their hosts must definitely get someone to meet them though because they haven't got anyone with local knowledge. And who is going to provide them with the bus for 32 people? And how are they going to arrange it? Now I haven't any idea if you're trying to do a deal to fix them up with something but that's no reason to diss my advice.
Rgds
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Dear ukiceman,

Your hosts need to have someone at BOTH airports to meet you.
Sheremetyevo is a pain in the ass.
But at Sheremetyevo they should get you onto a public bus to go to the 'aerovoksal' which is a bus station close to the metro. Thereafter use the metro system to get to your chosen hotel unless that hotel is miles away from any metro station.

Domodedovo is really nice.
You all need to hop onto the train which goes directly to Paveletsky Voksal train station which has a metro station attached to it. Thereafter use the metro to get to the hotel.

If you choose to try taking people in coaches or mini buses on the roads, then you will encounter traffic jams - moscow can get pretty gridlocked during the day and especially friday night/ saturday morning and sunday night when people are coming and going from their dachas outside moscow.

My honest view is that you need locals who can deal with the bus, train and metro tickets on your behalf and all of you use public transport.

I go to Moscow every summer (for the last 14 years) and I think this is the best solution.

Rgds

Les
thanks for all that Les, will know a bit more of a full picture during the week regarding who is landing at what airport

thanks
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thanks 2 you both!!!

I think the info coming from you both is very interesting and we’re reading everything that is coming up

Like I say we’ve one person with us that can speak the lingo but, it looks like a local fixer is a big one to consider and Motobelka is on the case already I think.

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I leave it to Motobelka, he is far more a local than me.

If that fails, I have a pal here in Moscow who is streetwise (frighteningly so!), has the time, contacts and speaks v. good English. If you draw a blank contact me. I am not, unfortunately, planning to be here in May for that . Cowes perhaps ;-)

I do agree with 4wheels. With that number you need some assistance. SVO, as much as DME and VKO, are all pretty bewildering for a first time visitors on their own, let alone a party of youngsters. Alien alphabet, forbidding uniforms, spartan environment, hopeful pirate taxi drivers - all at the end of 4+ hour flight.
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I leave it to Motobelka, he is far more a local than me.

If that fails, I have a pal here in Moscow who is streetwise (frighteningly so!), has the time, contacts and speaks v. good English. If you draw a blank contact me. I am not, unfortunately, planning to be here in May for that . Cowes perhaps ;-)

I do agree with 4wheels. With that number you need some assistance. SVO, as much as DME and VKO, are all pretty bewildering for a first time visitors on their own, let alone a party of youngsters. Alien alphabet, forbidding uniforms, spartan environment, hopeful pirate taxi drivers - all at the end of 4+ hour flight.

Thanks Tony – that’s a proper nice offer. Maybe we’ll get that some other time on the Isle of Wight or Moscow? If your over after we get back drop me a line, we can hook-up for a bit.

Shaun
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Hi Motobelka
Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.
Maybe we can catch up for a when we get there.
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Hi Motobelka
Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.
Maybe we can catch up for a when we get there.
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Hi Mick, that's two s he's got, you and me

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Hi Motobelka

if your about on the sunday, i'd like to catch up for a bit. or come into the rink saturday and watch my kids sk8

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So many kids with us man!! If it was just myself on a bike, I wouldn’t be half as paranoid.
as a mother of two i understand your worries.
you'd better divide the group into quarters with grown-up in command of every quarter. the coach'd better look after the tuffest guys. every person should have a written hotel adress. if lost it's better to ask the way from young people with european looks - most of them speak good english. if anyone splits from the group and get lost totally the easiest way is to pick up a taxi (just rise your hand but mind the car must look like an official taxi) show the hotel adress and relax - Olympiysky plaza is well known by everyone.
to rent a bus is very easy too. the payment goes "in fact" - when you get onto the bus in the airport you pay the driver (i just called some renting agencies all of them ready to work on such conditions).
if you decide to go by metro the group must be well-organised and there shouldn't be more bags then people.

in any case remember - Moscow is not another planet it's just a big city and it lives on the same general rules as paris or madrid.

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With the amount of planning gone into this trip and the extremely helpful folks on the HUBB - I owe HEAPS of drinks to HEAPS of people - I'm going to be pissed the whole time I'm away .

One month to go then we're off - I'm getting fidgety . . .
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as a mother of two i understand your worries.
Cool another mother I think that’s going to settle the coach and other mums watching this thread

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