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abandon a bike in uzbek, what is involved

I really screwed up my 2007 Dakar with fried electrical wiring. my fault, not BMW issue. I am looking at repairing (massive amount of rewiring) , getting a new wiring loom (but not sure if the computer is fried now as well) or abandoning the bike. Just happened late yesterday, so I am considering all my options. does anybody know what is involved in abandoning the bike. The bike is on all kinds of offical paperwork, so I don't think I cna leave without some official action?

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depends if you ever want to go back.

You will be able to fly out ok ... even telling the guys you are going to get spare parts for it.
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Any alternatives?

I'd say abandoning is a last resort thing(?)

Maybe first figure out from local post office what are the import duties and paperwork involved importing a product costing XXX much as a foreigner - if affordable (some countries may charge 300-500% of the cost!) then figure out what shops in Europe (probably the fastest to Stans) have the complete loom in stock and I reckon any shop is willing to send with DHL/Fedex or any other fast service once they've recieved a payment from you with credit card.
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I don't see the problem
Wiring loom = £125
BMS-C unit = £145
+ DHL costs
why abandon what may be a good bike just for that?
Those parts are available right now from Motorworks.
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I definitely plan on being back here. Don't want to leave without leaving that option open. I am not sure what would happen when I show up at an airport without my bike. The could ding me for a pile of money. They do not use computers for much, but I am tagged somewhere in a computer as having entered with a means of transportqation.

The main wiring loom is most definitely more then 125 pounds, a whole lot more. However, it does not matter anymore. I believe I have found a way to ship it back to family in Holland. I crated the bike today and will try to get it to the Urgench airport tomorrow for a flight to Tashkent Friday and to AMS Monday. The local customs chief got a call from Tashkent asking him make sure to help me out as much as possible and he is, all he wants to do is get rid of me, in the worst way. He is doing whatever he can with the airline to get me out of town. There are still quit a few hurdles to overcome before I can get my bike out of customs in AMS, but there is substantial progress.

I will keep you posted. Thanks for your help.

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I don't see the problem
Wiring loom = £125
BMS-C unit = £145
+ DHL costs
why abandon what may be a good bike just for that?
Those parts are available right now from Motorworks.
I met some people of the Steel Scorpions MC in Tashkent and they told me that getting parts for vehicles of outside Uzbekistan is a big problem, it takes a long time passing the custums in UZ and ik cost a lot of money for taxes.
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The main wiring loom is most definitely more then 125 pounds, a whole lot more.
The motorworks parts are second hand - they break BMW bikes as well as sell new stuff. 125 quid is about right. You are in NL now right? If you cant find a second hand loom there, just order them from Motorworks (the loom and the BMS unit) ... cheap.

If you cant find a good bike electrician in NL, then I know a very good one in South London who could rewire it up and double check everything quite quickly, with the replacement loom. Just rent a van for a couple of days, stick the bike in a van, drive to London where the sparky and the loom and BMS could be waiting to go. Bike back on the road in days.
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have you tried finding a local who could patch the loom for you? I have rebuilt looms in an emergency, even from domestic electric cable. Theyr'e not tidy but they work absolutely fine. That is of course if the computer isn't shagged - you'd need the right diagnostic tool for that unless it displays coded fault codes through the dash lights (I am too tight to buy a fuel injected bike so don't have these problems).

Shipping it back to Holland would be viable, but are you on a trip at the minute that would get ruined or are you working in UZ?
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I am in Holland. The bike is still in Tashkent. The Malaysia Airlines Cargo flight back with the bike has been delayed several times, but hopefully it will arrive back in AMS tomorrow.

My original post was just a post to enquire about that option. As it worked out it was no big deal to get the bike back home, just a lot of patience and a couple of names / phone numbers of the right people to motivate others.

I emailed MotorWorks from Uz, but never received an answer from them. I will call them tomorrow and check what they have. I did not realize they had used wiring looms. I will attempt a repair myself. The problem is not so much the amount of cables that need to be patched (massive), but more so the location of the one end of the damage, real close to the relay box and hard to get to. When fixing it I only want to do so if it can be done right, I do not want to get stranded everytime the patches get wet or get shorted again. I found all the right parts here to do it right. In Urgench I could not even find the right wire, let alone the right tape, or shrink tube, or soldering iron or ...... I know I could just clusterf it together, but I did not want to do so.

It is amazing what a couple of days of peace and quite and a good bed and good weather do to your outlook on life. I am ready to take care of things. Plans are being made to restart the trip some time soon where I left of. I hope that by that time Kyrg will also have settled down, since it, with Tajikistan, were my main targets for the trip.

Thanks all for your suggestions, help and encouragement.

KP

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It is amazing what a couple of days of peace and quite and a good bed and good weather do to your outlook on life. I am ready to take care of things. Plans are being made to restart the trip some time soon where I left of. I hope that by that time Kyrg will also have settled down, since it, with Tajikistan where my main targets for the trip.
Great to hear it KP ... I thought you were are little more down than you needed to be after your Uzbek fry-up ... so good to see you thinking of fixing it up again ASAP and getting riding again. Its always the best mentality.
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yep, Im also happy you have it sorted. Who wants to leave a bike behind, even if its only a bmw?

hehehe

When the tranny on my Indian went kaput in Irkutsk in 06, I figured I was thru. But, I tore it apart, & some old guy with a machine shop in the basement was able to line bore it to insert a lada bearing (had just a steel bushing)
and even made several special tools to do the job with.
2 days later, Im back on the road.
When I asked for the bill, his reply was
'do you have enough money to finish your trip?'
what a guy. I paid the bill, 60.00

the russian bearing is still working fine!
and I still have the special tools he gave me afterwards.
I asked why, he said
'when am I going to work on an old Indian again?'


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When I asked for the bill, his reply was
'do you have enough money to finish your trip?'
what a guy. I paid the bill, 60.00

the russian bearing is still working fine!
and I still have the special tools he gave me afterwards.
I asked why, he said
'when am I going to work on an old Indian again?'


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nice story Doug ... very Siberian!
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@KP If you need some help fixing your bike send me a PM and maybe its nice to meet.
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Malaysia Airlines delayed the cargo flight over and over again, but now fate is back in my own hands again. I picked up the bike at Amsterdam airport tonight. Easy as can be, very little paperwork and 80 euro charges. Tomorrow I will go over the repair plan. Motoworks did not have a wiring loom for my bike.

Colebatch, you are right, I may have been a little too negative about my situation, but at the time I did not see a way out in Urgench. Just so pissed about such a stupid and unnecessary reason to get stranded. Nevertheless, I have my bike. I spend a lot of money to get it here, but it is just money, screw it. I have my bike and there is no reason why I can not fix it just fine here. Tajik / Kyrg will be still there next year.

AHE59, I would like to meet up some time. Let me send you a PM so we can get in contact and comoare notes.

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