#1  
Old 14 Mar 2012
Fredontour's Avatar
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: since 2005 on the worldtrip,on two bikes and more than 300.000km
Posts: 51
what I need for bordercrossing to USA
somewhere now,
when I cross the border with my bike ,australian or german registered from mexico to the USA ,what I need for paperwork,

1. can I get the "temporay Import Permit" for the bike on the border,?

2. need I a insurance to get in,
when yes, can I get it on the border

3. what else I need ?


I will get through the USA to Cananda and than back to the USA and ship to german,


hopefull, for some more information about this, there are a lot different storys going around how to get with the bike over landbordercrossing in
the USA,

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 14 Mar 2012
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK but on the road in NZ now
Posts: 150
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredontour View Post
somewhere now,
when I cross the border with my bike ,australian or german registered from mexico to the USA ,what I need for paperwork,

1. can I get the "temporay Import Permit" for the bike on the border,?

2. need I a insurance to get in,
when yes, can I get it on the border

3. what else I need ?


I will get through the USA to Cananda and than back to the USA and ship to german,




hopefull, for some more information about this, there are a lot different storys going around how to get with the bike over landbordercrossing in
the USA,



We crossed over from Mexico into the USA in Nov 2011 and last month. We had a US visa for 6 months and that's all they looked at. We had EPA certificates and insurance but it was not asked for. All they needed to see was the bike registration ie UK V5 document. We got insurance through Progressive on line. The EPA forms we got prior to leaving and they took 3 weeks to get. I would recommend crossing the Border into the USA at Douglas AZ as it is reasonably quiet but has a bank to hand back the Mexican temp vehicle import certificate for refund. If crossing from Baja Tecate is nice, Algadones is very quiet but I don't think it has a bank.

Paul
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 14 Mar 2012
Fredontour's Avatar
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: since 2005 on the worldtrip,on two bikes and more than 300.000km
Posts: 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheels03 View Post
We crossed over from Mexico into the USA in Nov 2011 and last month. We had a US visa for 6 months and that's all they looked at. We had EPA certificates and insurance but it was not asked for. All they needed to see was the bike registration ie UK V5 document. We got insurance through Progressive on line.

" The EPA forms"

we got prior to leaving and they took 3 weeks to get. I would recommend crossing the Border into the USA at Douglas AZ as it is reasonably quiet but has a bank to hand back the Mexican temp vehicle import certificate for refund. If crossing from Baja Tecate is nice, Algadones is very quiet but I don't think it has a bank.

Paul
Paul thks,
what are the EPA forms and where you get them and for what you need them,
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 20 Mar 2012
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK but on the road in NZ now
Posts: 150
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredontour View Post
Paul thks,
what are the EPA forms and where you get them and for what you need them,

EPA forms are basically red tape for importing your bike. It's the US environment agencies way of making sure you take your polluting bike out of the country when you leave. The thing is no one checks it or wants to see it on entering or leaving the USA. But as it's free and only involves a few emails and down loading the form you might as well get it JIC (just in case)!!
It's amusing that the EPA issue these forms to Euro bikes when you can still buy new DR's and KLR's with carbs. Our fuel injected XT's way greener.

Enjoy the US and if you can - ride the Trans America trail.

link below to the EPA.

Paul



Importing Vehicles and Engines into the U.S. | Transportation & Air Quality | US EPA
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 22 Mar 2012
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Onalaska, Washington, USA
Posts: 225
EPA papers would only be needed if you are importing permanently. Temp import requirements are the same as most countries, must meet rules of where it is registered.

Insurance is required in most states, easy to get on line. Might need an address to send to so if you are on the road maybe find someone just across the border. You could use mine (send PM) and I could scan an email what you might need.

Remember when you cross out of Mexico most vehicles from US do not have temp import (free states along boarder) so they will not be stopping at custom to get checked out. This took me about two hour to find the right place to get temp checked out. If you used a credit card for deposit you will not need bank mentioned above.

If you make it to the northwest drop me a line.
Bob
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 22 Mar 2012
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Chester, UK
Posts: 139
Don't know about the requirements of EPA approval for temporary versus permanent import, but I got approval just in case. Here's how:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...approval-51514

Saludos
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 2 Apr 2012
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK but on the road in NZ now
Posts: 150
Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Hog View Post
EPA papers would only be needed if you are importing permanently. Temp import requirements are the same as most countries, must meet rules of where it is registered.

Insurance is required in most states, easy to get on line. Might need an address to send to so if you are on the road maybe find someone just across the border. You could use mine (send PM) and I could scan an email what you might need.

Remember when you cross out of Mexico most vehicles from US do not have temp import (free states along boarder) so they will not be stopping at custom to get checked out. This took me about two hour to find the right place to get temp checked out. If you used a credit card for deposit you will not need bank mentioned above.

If you make it to the northwest drop me a line.
Bob
Yes you do need to visit the bank if you pay by credit card to get the refund, They get a photo of the bike VIN number before they issue a refund and give you a receipt. That's bad advice from Bob.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 3 Apr 2012
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Onalaska, Washington, USA
Posts: 225
Bob here with more bad advice maybe. Things may be different for non US registered vehicles but the three times I have been in to Mexico with temporary import papers I never paid a deposit they just recorded my credit card number so that if I did not take it out in six months they could bill the credit card for import fees. So my experience is if you give them a credit card number you do not need to stop at any bank because there would be no refund because you were not charged. You do need to make sure you get checked out and save the paper work for documentation. That is my two cents worth.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 3 Apr 2012
Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Nagano, Japan
Posts: 630
Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Hog View Post
EPA papers would only be needed if you are importing permanently. Temp import requirements are the same as most countries, must meet rules of where it is registered.
Maybe nobody asks for it, but http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/documents/420b10027.pdf says
Prior EPA letter of approval is required for Temporary Importations, except for Foreign Diplomat and Foreign Armed Forces.

It doesn't cost any money, so it certainly cant hurt to get one.
__________________
Japan touring information
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 3 Apr 2012
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: bellingham, WA, USA
Posts: 1,722
Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Hog View Post
the three times I have been in to Mexico with temporary import papers I never paid a deposit
I understand the rules have changed and they now take a deposit on entry.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 3 Apr 2012
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Onalaska, Washington, USA
Posts: 225
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris of Japan View Post
Maybe nobody asks for it, but http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/documents/420b10027.pdf says
Prior EPA letter of approval is required for Temporary Importations, except for Foreign Diplomat and Foreign Armed Forces.

It doesn't cost any money, so it certainly cant hurt to get one.
Well leave it up to the Socialist States of America and the dictatorial EPA to violate international treaty they have signed that clearly state that vehicles that meet the requirements of the country where they are registered can come in with temporary import.

My last trip to Mexico was in '09 and things may have changed. It was a good system, why did they need to screw it up.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 3 Apr 2012
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: bellingham, WA, USA
Posts: 1,722
Because it wasn't working for them. In other words, people were bringing vehicles into Mexico and leaving them there (or failing to check them back out, which to a bureaucrat is the same thing).

It's not a big deal: you pay a deposit on entry and when you leave they give it back.

Mark
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 4 Apr 2012
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK but on the road in NZ now
Posts: 150
Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Hog View Post
Bob here with more bad advice maybe. Things may be different for non US registered vehicles but the three times I have been in to Mexico with temporary import papers I never paid a deposit they just recorded my credit card number so that if I did not take it out in six months they could bill the credit card for import fees. So my experience is if you give them a credit card number you do not need to stop at any bank because there would be no refund because you were not charged. You do need to make sure you get checked out and save the paper work for documentation. That is my two cents worth.
You check your bike out, get the paper work and they get a pic of your vin number at the Banjercito which is a Bank. If you don't stop at the Banjercito Bank at the border crossing back into the USA you will have to re-enter Mexico with your bike to check it out - no other way of doing it. You might want your two cents back !
Reply With Quote
Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Air shipping from USA to Asia (Thailand, Singapore, etc...) bokad Trip Transport 2 1 Apr 2012 03:14
KLR 650 2007 near Ushuaia 11k mi., Chilean registered but was registered in USA also. anibalfv TRAVEL Bikes for Sale / Wanted 4 16 Mar 2012 17:58
Buying a bike in the USA by foreigner then travelling to South America Spacemonkey Trip Paperwork 10 18 Feb 2012 07:30
Europe - USA - Horror shipping company or bad luck? pweigand Trip Transport 5 20 Jan 2012 20:32
Help - USA insurance for Europe citizens pweigand Trip Paperwork 2 20 Oct 2011 17:41


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 20:12.

Contact Us - Horizons Unlimited Motorcycle Travellers Website - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top