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Billy Bunter 14 Nov 2008 16:07

Zumo's?
 
Hiya all, after reading some of these threads as i am looking to get a gps for a forthcoming trip, there doesn't seem to be an awful lot of enthusiasm for the Zumo, which was specifically designed for bikes... and the 400 in particular is getting to be a reasonable price now.
Is there a reason for this? or is just that the 60 series say can be used a s a handheld too?
Many thanks

stevesawol 14 Nov 2008 20:53

go onto ukgser.com.. the guys rave about them. some have said the mount is not so solid. Though it can be used as a point and shoot type of GPS, it has a massive range of options and abilities. for outside of north America and europe I don't think you have the full mapping available, so a 60csx will still do turn by turn directions and will be just as good if not more rugged for central asia, african use. ( and it's a lot cheaper)
GPS's are like everything else; some like honda's some like yamaha's some BMW's and swear they are best .

Billy Bunter 27 Nov 2008 20:43

Thanks for your thoughts Steve, have checked out UKGSER and they had some useful info on there... am drawn to the 60csx... to much choice is not always a good thing!

monsieur 28 Nov 2008 09:40

Try out this site...
ZumoForums

viajero_vern 6 Feb 2009 03:33

Zumo or 60csx
 
I have been looking at getting the Zumo 550 form trip through SE Asia and across through India and then to Africa (a RTW). But know I am wondering if the 60csx might be better as mentioned for Asia and Africa. I assume it will take all the maps I need for where ever I am the are available.

Billy Bunter, did you get the ^0csx, and if so, how do you find it?

Cheers

motoreiter 6 Feb 2009 07:05

I have a zumo, am not familiar with the 60csx, but don't really understand why the 60 would be better for central asia and africa unless it comes with detailed world maps, which is hard to believe. you can load whatever maps you want into the zumo, and it is plenty rugged. my main complaint about the zumo is that you can't customize the interface.

SDR 6 Feb 2009 09:52

I have a Zumo 550 and it is a fantastic piece of kit - probably the best accessory investment I have made other than luggage. The Bluetooth helmet audio works fine. The maps are good. I have no problems with crazy routings. It is easy to use on the bike. It is easy to plug in and plan routes on a PC. It keeps a breadcrumb trail for the post-ride analysis. I have also dropped it - hard - probably a half dozen times with no problems. Highly recommended.

viajero_vern 6 Feb 2009 11:47

As I said previously, I have been considering the Zumo, but after reading Steveawol's post, and my intended route, I then thought again.

Quote:
(it has a massive range of options and abilities. for outside of north America and europe I don't think you have the full mapping available, so a 60csx will still do turn by turn directions and will be just as good if not more rugged for central asia, african use. ( and it's a lot cheaper))

The fact that there is a Zumo forum would no doubt be helpful for any future help.
The beginning of my trip will be coming up at the end of the year and there are many things I have to finalize, this being one of them.

motoreiter 6 Feb 2009 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by viajero_vern (Post 227220)
...for outside of north America and europe I don't think you have the full mapping available, so a 60csx will still do turn by turn directions ...

This is the part I don't understand--you can use non-NA and Europe Garmin maps on the Zumo, if you have them and load them. Does a 60csx come preloaded with a routable world map? I doubt it...what's the issue here?

yehonataniv 6 Feb 2009 16:13

hi
 
dont know about the zumo but i see some few of them with problem in the sun and with woter

any way i made may trip in central & south america with: GARMIN 276c and it was great, with chip for all of america it halp`s me many time`s on the way icluding amaizing short cut`s and stuff.
good luck !
yehonatan niv

motoreiter 6 Feb 2009 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by yehonataniv (Post 227257)
dont know about the zumo but i see some few of them with problem in the sun and with woter

I took mine on about 25k miles and it held up fine in sun and rain, although the screen did develop some bubbles or something that made it harder to read than at first. Upon my return, Garmin replaced it (out of warranty) with no charge.

motoreiter 6 Feb 2009 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterfox (Post 227277)
can one put a remote aerial on a zumo?, eg to use on a boat where a cable conects the aerial to the GPS?

you can put a remote XM radio antenna on it, but I don't think you can use a remote GPS antenna. You generally don't need one though, the zumo gets really good reception, although I'm not sure what kind of boat you're talking about...

motoreiter 7 Feb 2009 06:03

a zumo should certainly work in a land rover and I would guess in a small boat as well...the zumo forum is very good and you should be able to get really good answers there.

fernan_ci 7 Feb 2009 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by viajero_vern (Post 227220)
As I said previously, I have been considering the Zumo, but after reading Steveawol's post, and my intended route, I then thought again.

Quote:
(it has a massive range of options and abilities. for outside of north America and europe I don't think you have the full mapping available, so a 60csx will still do turn by turn directions and will be just as good if not more rugged for central asia, african use. ( and it's a lot cheaper))

The fact that there is a Zumo forum would no doubt be helpful for any future help.
The beginning of my trip will be coming up at the end of the year and there are many things I have to finalize, this being one of them.

full maps, look this one?(from kasakhstan) in zumo 550

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/907/140ag5.bmp
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1970/168nc3.bmp
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4476/216ts7.bmp


There are maps from all around the world for zumo, I have 4.1 routable basemap

motoreiter 7 Feb 2009 16:58

fernan,

where did you get that cool map of kazakhstan? And what is the 4.1 routable base map? Is that the world map?

fernan_ci 7 Feb 2009 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by motoreiter (Post 227402)
fernan,

where did you get that cool map of kazakhstan? And what is the 4.1 routable base map? Is that the world map?

4.01 routable basemap is worldmap, yes.

here (direct link to russian garmin site), after download, extract file and copy the file "gmapbmap.img" inside "\GarminMobileXTFull\GMobileCard\Garmin" to your garmin device (overwrite old one):

http://www.garmin.ru/GarminMobileXTFull.exe

and Kazakhstan map here (full of free garmin maps):

Map details

Routable Kazakhstan map for mapsource here:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...zakhstan-41097

viajero_vern 8 Feb 2009 06:43

Gracias amigo, I was almost swung over to the 60csx because of its price, durability, off-bike use and positive raps I have read elsewhere.

motoreiter 8 Feb 2009 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by viajero_vern (Post 227458)
Gracias amigo, I was almost swung over to the 60csx because of its price, durability, off-bike use

You can also use the Zumo off the bike, it has an internal battery. You just can't use it to play music or get audio directions while off the bike, b/c the audio out jack is in the mount.

fernan_ci 8 Feb 2009 09:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by viajero_vern (Post 227458)
Gracias amigo, I was almost swung over to the 60csx because of its price, durability, off-bike use and positive raps I have read elsewhere.

Zumo is amazing, could be expensive, but you get what you pay.

viajero_vern 8 Feb 2009 21:32

I have a Macbook. Am I able to use garminMobileXT once I get it loaded onto the Zumo? That is, once I load it on using a PC, can I the use it on the appropriate Mapsource replacement software, i.e. Garmin Roadtrip I use on my Mac, which is the similar to Mapsource.

Thanks for your help guys. I probably wont get to read any replies for a few weeks, I am at the airport and wont have any internet till I get back.

fernan_ci 8 Feb 2009 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by viajero_vern (Post 227552)
I have a Macbook. Am I able to use garminMobileXT once I get it loaded onto the Zumo? That is, once I load it on using a PC, can I the use it on the appropriate Mapsource replacement software, i.e. Garmin Roadtrip I use on my Mac, which is the similar to Mapsource.

Thanks for your help guys. I probably wont get to read any replies for a few weeks, I am at the airport and wont have any internet till I get back.

don´t mix the things, what you´ll load into zumo will be "gmapbmap.img" file with "copy-paste" conecting zumo to your mac with "usb" cable, not with mapsource. This will make you be able to see routable worldmap 4.01 version in your zumo.

viajero_vern 8 Feb 2009 21:56

Thanks again fernan, I am just looking now for that file to get it before I go.

DAVSATO 20 Feb 2009 10:01

info please
 
maps specifically for the zumo come on sd cards, but on the garmin website it says they can also use maps from the city navigator DVD. does anyone on here do that? do you load them onto your own sd card to put in the zumo or does it have an internal memory? its a zumo400 im talking about.

personally ive had problems with sd cards before and i wouldnt want to trust my whole (expensive!) maps to be stored on one. i would prefer to have a DVD 'master' and load the unit from the pc.

motoreiter 20 Feb 2009 12:36

zumos have an internal memory, but i think the 400's is smaller than the other models. go to the zumo forum for all the info you could ask for on what maps will work and how to load them onto internal memory or SD

DAVSATO 20 Feb 2009 19:16

thats what im hoping. i dont mind using an sd card in the zumo for storing maps but ive lost too many photos to trust one completely. at least then i can have a duplicate for back up.

DAVSATO 25 Feb 2009 17:36

re; above few posts, i have been playing with my zumo and
FOR ANYONES INFO;
the zumo is basically a flash drive that comes up on your PC/mac as another drive folder. you can copy stuff from it onto your desktop without hurting it (in fact you should do this anyway to make a back-up folder, and definately do this before doing anything below).
DO NOT DELETE GmapBMAP, this is the basemap all the detailed maps overlay onto. you can delete GmapPROM and GmapSUPP, these are your regional maps.
then in mapsource, select maps for a region you want to keep, eg UK or whatever, and send these to your zumo. they will appear in the folder as GmapSUPP. rename this file GmapPROM, this basically is your preloaded maps.
any more map regions for hols or whatever that get loaded into the zumo will appear as GmapSUPP files, and it will keep the PROM file seperate so you know which maps to get rid of afterwards.

fernan_ci 25 Feb 2009 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAVSATO (Post 230659)
re; above few posts, i have been playing with my zumo and
FOR ANYONES INFO;
the zumo is basically a flash drive that comes up on your PC/mac as another drive folder. you can copy stuff from it onto your desktop without hurting it (in fact you should do this anyway to make a back-up folder, and definately do this before doing anything below).
DO NOT DELETE GmapBMAP, this is the basemap all the detailed maps overlay onto. you can delete GmapPROM and GmapSUPP, these are your regional maps.

Is true, but you can overwrite the GmapBMAP with a new one, like I was telling before, because I did it, I have the 4.01 routable GmapBMAP just overwriting the original.
Anyway I recomend make a backup of the garmin (is very easy, just copy all folders "MP3 and GARMIN" from Zumo unit to the computer using USB cable), and if something is going bad, erase all from zumo and copy the folders that you have in your PC.

DAVSATO 26 Feb 2009 09:50

i never knew the basemap changed! is it available to download from garmin free or do you have to pay for it?

oh, and for anyone with a 400/450, the internal memory is 512Mb. thats not great but it is double what im used to in the old quest, and its academic anyway when you also have an SD slot (and HC compatable)

fernan_ci 26 Feb 2009 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAVSATO (Post 230774)
i never knew the basemap changed! is it available to download from garmin free or do you have to pay for it?

Is free, read my post above.

camnz 26 Feb 2009 19:49

broken screen
 
does anyone know a cheap way to get the screen on my zumo 550 replaced?i dropped it taking it out of the cradle last week and garmin charge £130 to fix it....long shot as garmin is probably the only place to get it done......


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