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Old 11 Jan 2013
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If I purchase City Navigator mapping for an additional country, I will only be able to install the whole map and cannot install selected countries?
Therefore the whole map of Europe including Turkey will need to be installed? Thanks.
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Does anyone know the size of the audio jack plug that is supplied with the Montana's rugged mount please?
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standard 3,5mm stereo mini jack

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Does anyone know the size of the audio jack plug that is supplied with the Montana's rugged mount please?
it's a standard 3,5mm stereo mini jack, wildly used with any home audio kit like mp3 player and so on... any bike head set kit would have this plug anyway... no problems... unless you using a product for "iPlonker" kit which may got there own wiring the other way round...
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Spooky, I've tried the jack on the Rugged Mount with iPod, MP3 player, radio and 'phone and it is too small for them all, therefore I am unsure as to what is the actual size.
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well I tried the 3,5mm stereo mini-jack from a audio "Senheiser HD-25" stereo headset which I'm using with my high-end WAV-mp3-recorder, PC+laptop-output and a cheap standard helmet headset from my local bike shop and both worked without problems.
This audio extension on the rugged mount is build to be used with helmet headsets.
3,5mm is what I was reading out of the Garmin tech-spec at the time I bought it a year ago... this is the same size used on the Montana it self.
Watch out, many of this phone plugs on the market are prohibited hardware, using 2,5mm or 2,8mm plugs or wire them in another way, so you have to stick to there system and spend £$ to this specific brand of phone for instant.

as I pointed out... any iPlot or plug from a rotten Apple will not work regarding there prohibited hardware policy so non of there stuff is compatible with any normal audio kit... they want you to buy there own $$-adapter, which only convert to the normal size and wiring...

you better off paying your local bike shop a visit to get the rugged mount connected to your helmet.
anyway I sealed the audio output of my rugged mount, I don't like wires dangling about and rather got my peace while riding, rather than being nagged by a funny stupid voice... "turn right", "turn right", "you missed the motorway my friend", "turn right" I rather decide my self if I want to take the motorway or country lane... so I switched all the audio off... the routing is not that reliable either, nor always showing the shortest way... I using the Montana for a year and covered 13.000km by now with the latest maps, but do not relay on it at all... rather my common sense, compass and a good map... a GPS to me is only a welcome, convenience addition, while the Montana coming close to being useful.
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I was looking into the Montana and thought it was neat device and great for motorcycles, until I saw a video on it. In the video this fellow put the unit on a chair in direct sun lite. When it reached 87F the screen started to act up and switch modes. I'm an old Lowrance XOG user and that unit had a touch screen. The touch screen made it a bear to use with gloves and occasional would get so scrambled in layered maps, that it was useless. I learned my lesson and have never gone back to a touch screen device on a motorcycle. Hence I invested in a Delorme Earthmate PN60. While it is a small, small, small window, it still guides me and has never had an issue in 2 years now.

I have prayed to the GPS gods to deliver a 4 inch diagonal screen, IP7 water proof, with buttons and full 24K topos but no one has delivered yet.

Ill wait until the 600T price drops to $150.00 before test driving.
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I was looking into the Montana and thought it was neat device and great for motorcycles, until I saw a video on it. In the video this fellow put the unit on a chair in direct sun lite. When it reached 87F the screen started to act up and switch modes. I'm an old Lowrance XOG user and that unit had a touch screen. The touch screen made it a bear to use with gloves and occasional would get so scrambled in layered maps, that it was useless. I learned my lesson and have never gone back to a touch screen device on a motorcycle. Hence I invested in a Delorme Earthmate PN60. While it is a small, small, small window, it still guides me and has never had an issue in 2 years now.

I have prayed to the GPS gods to deliver a 4 inch diagonal screen, IP7 water proof, with buttons and full 24K topos but no one has delivered yet.

Ill wait until the 600T price drops to $150.00 before test driving.
That was a factory problem and was fixed with all faulty models swapped out under warranty. Mine sits on my bike all day and has never had an issue like it.
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That's indeed good news. Now I may consider trying one.

When it comes to Topo Maps, I found that the Lowrance installed base map was the exact maps as the "high end" topo map Delorme offers. Both were made by Info USA. My question is which topo map company does Garmin offer?
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Has anyone tried the Birdseye satellite images on the Montana? I'm downloading some for Mongolia now, but wanted to see if anyone had used them and found them useful (or not)?
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In a nutshell- no I haven't as I create my own using GE.

Useful? moderate to little use for me, the main issue being one of map sizes created and you will need many especially if you want a high level of detail and of many places.
I use my GE created img's as an overlay, they can be of some use but the above re:space remains- 'maps' will appear as you reach the coords automatically.
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Bertrand,

Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that GE images could be used like this, or that they would scroll as you move down the road. Is there any secret to being able to use the images like this, or is it pretty self-explanatory?

I thought it would be helpful to have sat images in Mongolia, given the trails which seem to go all over the place. And you're right about the number of images--I've probably already got over 100 and probably have several hundred to go. Luckily these should fit easily on the Montana's SD card, but it is very tedious to download them all. One of my concerns is that as the number of images increses, they will load slower and slower, which could make the whole exercise pointless.

For anyone who is interested, below I've posted images of the same area from both Birdseye highest detail level (top) and Google Maps (bottom). As you can see, at least in this area, Google's image has higher resolution:


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Downloading a GE image at the altitude you require is the first step.
The data then needs to be worked on to make it useable in your montana.
It is worth reminding readers that GE images are made by a very clever bit of software which
'stitches' pictures, scans, drawings etc to make a 'map'.
Timelines, data and details cannot be accurately determined so remember that what your display
shows you is not necessarily what you will see 'on the ground'.
Then, at times, you'll be amazed how good it can be!
All very time consuming to put together but useful if you don't have any other mapping.
For Mongolia (and anywhere you do not have good maps) IMHO, it would be best to create a datase of as
accurate as possible waypoints, switch your Montana to the compass page (CDI layout), edit the fields and learn/know how to navigate in 'off road' mode.
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For Mongolia (and anywhere you do not have good maps) IMHO, it would be best to create a datase of as accurate as possible waypoints, switch your Montana to the compass page (CDI layout), edit the fields and learn/know how to navigate in 'off road' mode.
Thanks, this sounds like good advice, I will check this out.
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Guys, I need help with something else on my Montana: shortly after I bought, the internal battery died for some reason. I recently bought a replacement battery, but when I put it in, it didn't work either... So I look closer at the battery compartment and realized that there seem to be only two battery contacts in the battery compartment, even though there seem to be four spaces for contacts, and the battery itself has four contacts. See pic below: on the green plate circled in red, there are two contacts on the left, but not on the right. Before I trudge out to the Motorola service place to have it fixed, could someone else look at their Montana to see how many contacts it has?

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