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Maximus 21 Sep 2009 14:50

Adding Morocco Map to Memory-map
 
Hello everyone, I am planning a trip to Morocco Sept 2010. I use Memory-Map on a PC with Evermore GPS in the UK and France which works very well.

I have seen a video on you tube of someone using Memory-Map with map sheet 742 (michilin morocco map) on his PC.

I have scanned map 742 to my computer but cannot for the life of me figure out how to get it on Memory-Map.

Can anyone help?

Tony177 21 Sep 2009 17:36

Scanned maps
 
Only certain versions of Memory Map allow you to import and calibrate scanned maps.

In the Map menu there should be a calibration option. If you have this put the scanned image in the same folder as your other maps. Load the image and then use calibrate to pick points on the map and enter the lat and long.

Hope this helps

Tony

Maximus 21 Sep 2009 20:18

Thanks Tony, I can see 'calibration' in the MAP drop down options, but it does not allow me to select it. I shall give MMap a call in the morning and ask why, as I have the latest V5 version which is still under warranty.

jbmoto 21 Sep 2009 22:22

You will only see the "calibrate" after you have loaded in a map image that you want to calibrate, jpeg, tiff, png.

:thumbup: JB

Maximus 23 Sep 2009 08:58

I had the scan done in a printing shop and copied to a CD-R as a JPEG IMG. Have tried to copy it to memory-map from the cd drive but it keeps saying 'no map files found'. Have tried copying it to paint and again saving it as a jpeg img but still no joy.:(

frinch11 23 Sep 2009 13:34

Iirc the 742 doesn't have any grid lines on it so there is nothing on the map to use as points reference for calibration. There is an IGN 1:1000,000 map that does, but obviously that would mean re-scanning.

Maximus 23 Sep 2009 19:24

Thanks I shall give it a go.....Here is a video with map 742 being used on Memory Map (in Morroco)......it can be done.

Morocco or bust! - Episode 3

I am told you can calibrate a map using 3 refrence points (road junctions etc) even although there are no gridlines by calibrating the 742 with same points on Google earth/maps. My problem is that I can't get as far as uploading the JPEG image of 742 to do so.

frinch11 23 Sep 2009 21:31

Sorry for wasting your time - was just trying to help.

Maximus 23 Sep 2009 22:48

On the contrary, your advice is very much appreciated.:thumbup1: And I might yet need to revert to your suggestion of the IGN Map.

I have put a comment on the you tube clip and hope that it's originator gets back to me.

Maximus 28 Sep 2009 08:30

Help!!!

Still unable to load a scanned (jpeg) map 742 onto my memory-map.:stupid:

Toyark 28 Sep 2009 09:21

Maximus- sorry can't help on that one.
However a long shot suggestion is to switch to a Garmin gps, use Mapsouce and there is a road and topo map of Morocco which is also free and use Nroute on your PC (or Mapsource) both of which are free as well.
p.m. me if you help with that otherwise MM people are really your quickest and best option
Seems that in that youtube the pc is attached to a Garmin 276C or its later model, the 278C gps

Maximus 28 Sep 2009 19:45

Thanks Bertrand, Now have Mapsource and topo map on computer. Think I will go down the Garmin GPS route as it appears tried and tested in that part of the world.

pdriver 29 Sep 2009 17:26

Full Instructions
 
Maximus. It's my video that you saw. I picked up your posting on YouTube and will attempt to explain how I integrated the Michelin 742 map with Memory Map.


Due to Ordnance Survey license restrictions, Memory-Map OS Editions do not include a Calibration feature for self-scanned maps, which is where you have been getting stuck. To achieve your goal you need to install a second installation of the European edition that will support self scanned maps with calibration. In order to do this however, you do need to have a licensed copy of Memory Map installed in the first instance. European users can disregard this workaround.


frinch11 is right to say the the Michelin 742 map does not have grid lines to aid calibration, so what you have to do is use 'known landmarks' instead. This is not has tricky as it sounds with a little help from Google Earth.


Bertrand also makes a valuable point, that the Olaf topo map on a Garmin unit is a tried and tested way forward. The great thing about Olaf is the level of detail, as it is based on GPS tracks provided by other overlanders. The disadvantage, in my humble opinion, is that to really benefit from this accuracy one has to be zoomed right in on the Garmin, which doesn't really give you a good overview of your journey.


I found that the two systems when used together really complimented each other. Once up and running it was very satisfying to see my GPS position and direction of travel, together with my pre-planned route and earlier tracks, clearly overlaid on the 742 sheet map. The Garmin 276c served as GPS for both systems yet each could be operated independently of each other.


It goes without saying that a standalone Garmin unit loaded with the Olaf topo map is a perfect Morocco solution for bikers. However even the most tech savvy of our two wheeled friends would struggle to ride a bike, use a garmin and simultaneously operate a car PC or laptop without serious risk of disaster. That's not to say that it should be attempted on four wheels, but as the video shows it is perfectly feasible.

So here's what you want to know. If it doesn't work out, I'll try my best to help.


1. Install a registered copy of Memory Map, using a valid User ID, serial number and license key.


2. Download and install Memory Map European Edition from http://www.memory-map.co.uk/dl_mm_OS_V5.htm


3. Copy your scanned map to your hard drive. Avoid using the default C:\Maps_v5 directory as this will cause a conflict with your OS edition. Rather than create a sub-directory I found it necessary create an entirely separate directory to the default. e.g. C:\Maps_Maroc


4. Open Memory Map European Edition and select the Map icon (or Ctrl +M). Then select 'Refresh Map List' and then choose 'Add Folder' to select your Morocco Map directory.


5. By now you will be able to view your Morocco Map. Next is is the fun part - configuring the calibration options.


6. From the file menu select Map > Edit Map Properties and add the name of your map together with any other relevant data. Importantly, tick the 'Allow Calibration' check-box. Click the OK button to save your settings.


7. Next it is time to add calibration points. Rather than explain the whole process here just look up 'Scan Maps' in Memory Maps help index (European edition).

8. Once finished, close the various dialog boxes and close the program.

8. Make backup copy of your C:\Maps_Maroc directory. Extra configuration files will have been created by Memory Map and you'll thank yourself later if you have to do it all again for some reason.

9. That should be it. Enjoy


If you are using a Garmin GPS receiver just hook it up to your PC with a USB cable and away you go. Garmin device, Mapsource, nRoute and Memory Map - all working together like a treat.




--- Using Google Earth to identify calibration points of known landmarks. ---


1. Open Google Earth and from the file menu select, Tools > Options. Find the 'Show Lat/Long' settings and change the default value to Degrees, Decimal Minutes. This will get GE talking the same language as MM and also Garmin GPS units.


2. Zoom in to the Morocco area in Google Earth and select a minimum of three exact points which you can identify on your scanned map. These points should be quite far apart form each other, for example at or near the four corners of your map. The obvious things to choose would be a large towns, but you'll get much better accuracy choosing really specific sites such as road junctions, coastal headlands and tiny villages. Although Memory Map recommends a minimum of three points of calibration, it really is a case of the more the better. I used about 25.


3. Note the Lat/Long of each location and enter these into MM as per the help file instructions. In GE you can get the Lat/Long by looking at the status bar as you move the mouse around. A better and more precise method is to add a placemark (map pin icon) at each location and for future reference save these points to a folder within 'My Places'

Maximus 29 Sep 2009 19:53

Paul,

you are an absolute star. :thumbup1: Thank you for responding in such detail to my call for help.

I was very impressed with your navigational set up on your trip, and as an avid user of memory-map have been hoping you would see my post.

I shall get on the case tomorrow and let everyone know how I get on.

Mac Mclennan

Maximus 30 Sep 2009 15:39

Just keeping you all up to date.

Installed European Edition of Memory-Map.
Tried to add Michelin Map as JPEG...... but no joy:(.

To cut a long story short, apparently I cannot use an RGB image - It must be 4 or 6 bit Indexed colour and be saved as a TIFF or PNG file.

Phoned memory-map:

I only have 'paint' and that's not good enough to convert the JPEG image to TIFF/PNG file. So the map has gone back to be re-scanned and saved as both TIFF and PNG files.

Pick map and new files up tomorrow, and will let you know how I get on.


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