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maximondo 30 Oct 2011 09:06

Turkey by Boat to Egypt - The backup Plan
 
HI Everyone,

I am currently in Iran, trying to get my Syrian Visa (Im a New Zealander with no Syrian Embassy in NZ) in Tehran. However they are causing problems despite telling me on the phone I could get it, now they have decided I need to be a resident.

So, my plan it to try the Turkey/Syria boarders as I should get a VOA (since I do not have an Embassy in my country) and see if I get in. However, I this fails I am trying to work out what the cheapest and warmest method to get around Syria and get to Africa.

I have been looking into ferry's between Turkey / Greece onwards to Greece / Egypt but nothing has been too clear for me. As some boats have been cancelled.

Any suggestions? I need to cross Syria mid December and I particularly do not want to cross Europe due to cost and weather! Im on a super budget and would just love to drive through Syria.

Please help...
Thanks
Danielle

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PanEuropean 30 Oct 2011 10:04

Hello Danielle:

Of all the places in the world I would not want to visit at this moment, I think Syria would be at the top of the list. I'm not sure how attentive you are to the news these days, but the feces is really hitting the ventilator in Syria right now...

Anyway, apropos of ferrying around Syria, I know there is ferry service from Israel to Greece (for the bike, not for yourself - it is not a passenger ferry). There has been a discussion here in the forum recently about that, and last month I met a couple in Greece who had shipped their Gold Wing by sea from Israel to Greece.

I'm wondering if Egypt to Turkey might be a more popular route, or perhaps 'somewhere' to Cyprus, then Cyprus to either Turkey or Greece (depending on which end of Cyprus you happen to be in).

Michael

catch22 30 Oct 2011 11:16

Syria
 
Danielle,

Why don't you make contact with Harry, an Austrian who is actually
in Teheran and has been refused entry Syria some weeks ago.
He should know about back-up plans!

Harry's site: Harald ( Harry ) Häninger | freedom-on2wheels

regards geert

maximondo 30 Oct 2011 12:04

Thanks a lot for the suggestions - i wonder which border Harry tried... I better get in contact with him as im in Tehran now too!

Thanks again
Danielle

Mehmet Zeki Avar 31 Oct 2011 01:16

There is no ferry line from Cyprus to anywhere else except Greece and Turkey...Just a wrong direction and waste of time and money...
Last month some bikers didnt pay attention to my words and already tried this..They are all back in Turkey now.

Visa is not possible for Syria in all 12 bordergates..
Suriye
Yayladağı (Hatay) · Cilvegözü (Hatay) · Islahiye (Gaziantep) · Çobanbey (Gaziantep) · Karkamış (Gaziantep) · Öncüpınar (Kilis) · Akçakale (Şanlıurfa) · Ceylanpınar (Şanlıurfa) · Mürşitpınar (Şanlıurfa) · Şenyurt (Mardin) · Girmeli (Mardin) · Cizre (Şırnak)

Harry had got his visa in A.. but unfortunately was not able to ride straight through Syria even he had visa so he stayed in a friends house in Şanlıurfa to try it several times.(Akçakale border gate).It was planned to be a group ride..
You will read it all in Harry's blog..
The same house with garden is arranged for your bike..

Be sure I will be the first one to tell it tou you when there is another option and better solution..Your trip in my agenda is number 1 and really willing to be helpful to you, too...

These are bad news..Good news is;
I am trying to give you good news about getting Syrian visa for you in Turkey..Lets see how it will develope and happen when you are here..

In these days,we are not so friendly with Syrian authorities because our government is not supporting Esad...All gates to enter Africa from Turkey are closed and this is really a big problem for travellers..Hope all will be normal soon.

So be strong,happy and positive to overcome all,(same as you were while dreaming this adventure),and you must be so..You have almost realised the first half..So half of the glass is full!!!

Wish you all the best and safe trips.

maximondo 31 Oct 2011 17:44

A huge thank you!
 
Thanks you so much!! You guys are doing so much for me and we havent even meet yet!!! I should be hitting Turkey shortly - im getting pretty excited, but sad about Syria!

See you soon
Danielle

Mehmet Zeki Avar 31 Oct 2011 21:55

Here is the photo of the good bye party for Dear Harry and Richard together with bikers from 5 different nations, and Sir Pascal Leclerc held in our club garage.

Our club is the castle for bikers from all over the world.

Richard-NL 1 Nov 2011 14:24

Syria and backup plans
 
Hey Danielle,

I'm Richard and travel together with Harry for a while. We are running into some hassles for getting visa's even in my home country isn't really easy. You can sent me a PM for more info.

Cheers Richard

Ronnie79 6 Nov 2011 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by istanbul bisiklet motosiklet (Post 354224)

In these days,we are not so friendly with Syrian authorities because our government is not supporting Esad...All gates to enter Africa from Turkey are closed and this is really a big problem for travellers..Hope all will be normal soon.

What do you mean by this? Maybe Syria isn't the safest place to be right now but transit seems still doable if you get a visa and don't travel with GPS etc.

Tom-Traveller 12 Nov 2011 08:53

a new possibilty ?
 
Hi

just found this .... can anyone confirm this or has more informations ?


Transport: Mersin-Alexandria ro-ro services to begin soon - Trasport - ANSAMED.info

Would be great :D

Greets Thomas

Ronnie79 18 Nov 2011 11:35

Here's a shipping company who does RoRo Mersin - Alexandria.

Plan your voyage - Van Uden Maritime

Unfortunately nothing until newyear and we want to ship earlier in case we have to skip Syria. Does anyone know any company who does RoRo or Container shipping to Egypt from just about anywhere in Europe, Turkey or maybe Tunisia?

m0318374 18 Nov 2011 12:44

We're leaving Brussels by the end of january 2012 for our Africa overland trip. Does anyone know already something more about the ro/ro from Mersin to Alexandria? Could we accompany the vehicle as passengers? I did not find much information on the website of Van Uden Maritime.

If that option won't work out I guess we will try the west coast instead, since it seems like the situation in Syria is escalating...

Tom-Traveller 17 Feb 2012 07:38

FERRY Turkey to Egypt
 
Hi guys

it looks like the ferry service from Mersin to Alexandria will start end of February .... :D:clap:

RORO services to start between Turkey and Egypt


This could be the solution for all travelling EastAfrica by :scooter: or 4x4

fingers crossed :mchappy:

Thomas & Andrea

Ronnie79 17 Feb 2012 09:04

Let's hope so!
 
Great news, let's hope it will start!

But I think I read something simular last year that never happened. Don't say hurray just yet!

I'm holding thumbs! (Meaning fingers crossed in Swedenbeer)

catch22 17 Feb 2012 11:14

Thomas and Andrea

thanks for your info, you made my day!!!

i will not breathe, stay put and keep fingers crossed-------------geert

Tom-Traveller 17 Feb 2012 13:39

FERRY Turkey to Egypt
 
Hi Mehmet

@istanbul bisiklet motosiklet

you guys in Istanbul have probably more possibilities or connections to Mersin and the mentioned

MENA Lines

Would you mind having a closer view or phone a friend of a friend of a friend and make some research ...

I think lots of overlander would be happy :thumbup1:

Thanks

Thomas & Andrea

Mehmet Zeki Avar 17 Feb 2012 19:40

As told by government:
every monday and thursday evening,Turkish roro ship with a capasity of 120 TIR. will start to carry passengers and cars from mersin to alexandria.. signatures are just completed for agreement between 2 countries..very soon prices will be clear and first start is on Feb.27 evenıng.

As told by the company:
All will be more clear next week.
This projects may meet some delays because the problem over south east cycprus is not solved yet..warships are still in the area.. there is ungentle and great competition between Turkish,Italian, and Greece Shipping companies..
As you know, things change so fast in the area..

On Monday evening will call the company again for details.Their main office is in istanbul, and will write all here then.

Best Wishes

Tom-Traveller 18 Feb 2012 06:51

Hey Mehmet

You are the man :clap: and thanks for the information :D

Looks like this is going to work and will solve the Syria problem

And yes, would be very good to know how much the price (all incl.) for the transfer is ....

Happy trails and thanks again :scooter:

Thomas & Andrea

Anacondor 20 Feb 2012 09:21

Hi Mehmet, Hi Thomas & Andrea,

First I will introduce myself: me and my girlfriend are currently travelling overland by car from the Netherlands to South Africa (and intend to also drive back).

We are currently in Cappadoccia (Turkey) and will be at the Turkish/Syrian border at the end of this week. We intend to drive through Syria in 1 or 2 days, but only if it is possible and safe enough. We have some lines with people in Syria who may be able to help us, but most of all we would be pleased if a guide/taxi driver/other tourists could join us on our trip trough Syria for safety reasons.

We are of course looking for a "plan B", e.g. shipping our car from Mersin to Alexandria. This seems to be possible with 1 company, but is expensive and a lot of hassle. Also it is not a roro, which means that we should get to Egypt ourselves while our car would be shipped.

Having said all the above, I am very pleased to read this post. If there would be a RoRo from Turkey to Egypt as from next week, I would definately like to know ALL the details! What should I do to get more information?

Could you guys be of any help to me? And Thomas & Andrea, what are your plans? Please let me know, just in case we could do things together if that would work better.

Best regards,
Daan
anacondor123@hotmail.com

Mehmet Zeki Avar 20 Feb 2012 09:47

First start is on feb.27.

MERSIN(TURKEY)-ALEXANDRIA(EGYPT)
every monday and thursday afternoon (certain)

ALEXANDRIA-MERSİN
every wednesday and saturday
roll on/roll off ferry service for trucks,cars,bikes and passengers

ship owner... Turkish menalines
ship name.... Rüzgar
capacity...... 120 trucks
photo.......... Below

Ticket Sales
MERSİN agent.........: Atakol (0324)2386830
ALEXANDRIA agent...: Kadmar Shipping

alexandria
32.saad zaghloul str.
(203)4862832- 4860689-4840680/3 lines
fax (203)4848326
general@kadmar.com

Also has offices in...:
cairo
15 lebanon street,el mohandesein,cairo
20-(0)-233445734 and 33052284

port said
El mahrousa building, mahmoud sedkey and banama str
20-(0)-663344016 and 18 fax.17
20-(0)-663354330
portsaid@kadmar.com

Just had a meeting with company owner in istanbul main office and will meet again a few hours later to learn prices and schedule (not clear yet)..

There are so many trucks waiting for this ship on the way to/from Gulf countries so make your reservations at once and get your tickets.

Wish you all happy and safe trips.
mehmet zeki.

Tom-Traveller 20 Feb 2012 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anacondor (Post 368152)
Hi Thomas & Andrea,

what are your plans? Please let me know, just in case we could do things together if that would work better.

Best regards,
Daan
anacondor123@hotmail.com

Hi Daan

already in Turkey, you are to early for us, sorry

.... but we will follow :D

Greets and good luck

T. u. A.

Anacondor 20 Feb 2012 15:46

I just heard from Atakin that it is very unsure if the RoRo will indeed depart on 27 February. Most probably not, but maybe later. There may be more information at the end of the week.

Furthermore, I just heard from some people in/around Syria that it is most probably safe to cross the country, so overlanders should make up their minds and find out if this is not just the best option (I will make up my mind this week and may cross Syria in about a small week).

roro 15 Mar 2012 16:02

" looks like the ferry service from Mersin to Alexandria will start end of February .... :D:clap:

RORO services to start between Turkey and Egypt


This could be the solution for all travelling EastAfrica by :scooter: or 4x4"

We are in March and what is the situation about this ferry?

I'm afraid there are no good news for now...

RR.

Tom-Traveller 12 Apr 2012 07:35

Hi

.... any news on this RoRo ghostship from Mersin to Alexandria ...doh

Thomas & Andrea

miles-to-ride.com

Mehmet Zeki Avar 12 Apr 2012 10:08

Good news are coming.......
 
Our club is pleased to bring a solution to this big problem.
Only 2 bikes per week this year for sea delivery.
We will be together until end of customs formalities here in İstanbul, will give the written certificate for transport of the bike,will help you to make the crate in our club garage,get your exit stamp for bike on passport page FREE OF CHARGE.
But we can accept only 2 bikes every week.

Now cargo ships only for bikes in crates from İstanbul-Ambarlı to Alexandria or Port Sait available every week end.
Customs clearings once a week every Friday until midnight.
Crate tracking will be available on net.
Delivery time 8-9 days.
Agent in Egypt will help you during customs clearings there.You can do it yourself there or agent will do it for you and charge you in egypt.What you need is time and patience and insallah!

Airfreight always available from/to İstanbul from/to any city on the world.Our club garage is just 11 km.far from İstanbul Atatürk int.airport.

You will pay only your personal expenses and materials that will be used for the crate.Çay,water also free by club.thanks to our bottled water sponsor.

Here how we do it for our search and rescue team bikes and how you will do it and share your time with us.

You must stay close to our club garage for less taxi and transport expenses.
If you can't, we will find a cheap pension or a room in Tourism school hotel or teachers home to stay for you.We need you personally on whole friday until latest midnight after the crate is finished even we do nothing but sit and talk.we will all be free after getting informed that your passport pages are also stamped and crates are on board.
Club garage is just 11 km.far from İstanbul Atatürk Int.Airport and ambarlı sea port 35.You can put all your panniers,helmet,boots,any legal luggage inside crate.This will be confirmed in written by the club to customs in Turkish and English.
EXPENSES FOR 1 BIKE
what we pay and what you will pay.
Crate Dimensions 220 X 110 X 80 cm.approx.weight 250-300 kğ.

Sea Delivery in a container. 960 USD.
metal crate............230 euro.(Ebay,Honda,yamaha,kawasaki original)
wooden coverings...50
others...................40 screws,bolts,nylon,fixers,etc.
truck transfer.........70 from club to port
taxi costs..............40 if we have to get.
total(all included 960 Dolars and 430 euros.)

Hope all is clear.Dont hesitate to ask anymore questions here you may have so everyone can get this useful information.

Wish you all the best.

amman77 23 Jun 2012 04:53

Clearing Agent in Istanbul
 
We are shipping our bike from India to Istanbul and the motorcycles will reach Istanbul by 15th July. . . can you help or suggest a clearing agent at the port to clear our motorcycles . . . . can we clear our bikes on our own . . . what are the formalities and costs involved going through an agent ? please help

roro 25 Jun 2012 13:36

and for cars, no possible?

RR

@TukTukTravels 25 Jul 2012 22:31

Getting to Africa
 
Hi all,

We are driving our tuk tuk around the world but the first stage is from London to Cape Town. Our main problem at the moment is finding a ferry that will get us access to Africa. I think our 2 main options having looked on here are as follows:

1. Italy (north east of Venice) to Israel. We are not sure whether this still goes or not? And if we do go to Israel what Sudan will think of that stamp? and on the carnet etc (even if we get it on paper)

2. Turkey to Egypt. Again not sure whether anyone has had any success with this recently?

We will be looking to get the ferry early to mid Oct.

Any pointers would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Mehmet Zeki Avar 25 Jul 2012 23:21

5 hours later a friend will start riding to mersin to get the ferry to port sait on friday at 10 pm. after his cönfirmation,the current information will be announced here..we were together and talked a lot today..so the honour of giving this good information will belong to him,Bert Houben from Belgium..Some more patience and hope good news will follow.
wish you all the best...

@TukTukTravels 26 Jul 2012 10:29

Thanks for your help. That sounds great.

bier

roro 26 Jul 2012 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by istanbul bisiklet motosiklet (Post 387161)
5 hours later a friend will start riding to mersin to get the ferry to port sait on friday at 10 pm. after his cönfirmation,the current information will be announced here..we were together and talked a lot today..so the honour of giving this good information will belong to him,Bert Houben from Belgium..Some more patience and hope good news will follow.
wish you all the best...

With a car or not?

RR.

@TukTukTravels 26 Jul 2012 14:09

For us, we need to transport a tuk tuk (a small three wheeled Asian taxi).

maielnaggar 22 Aug 2012 15:22

Agent Contacts in Egypt
 
The sole agent in Egypt is A.K NAGGAR GROUP.

Alexandria Head Office:
20 Patrice Lumumba Street, P.O.Box 622
Alexandria 21131, Egypt.
Tel: +20 (3) 390-6000
Fax: +20 (3) 3902-0909
E-mail: info@aknaggar.com

Contacts: Mrs Hend, Email: hend@aknaggar.com
Ms Mai, Email: mai@aknaggar.com

Port Said Office:
8 Palastin Street, Elmesageria Building 4th Floor
Port Said, Egypt
Tel: +20 (66) 333-3865 / 332-3820
Fax: +20 (66) 333-866
E-mail: naggarpsd@naggarshipping.com
Contact person: Ms Aya, Mr. Nabil Aboulkheir

Suez Office:
34 Zahraa Tower Elgesh Street, Portwfeek
Suez, Egypt
Tel 1: +20 (62) 319-1685
Fax 1: +20 (62) 319-6938
Contact person: Mr Awad
E-mail: naggarsuz@naggarshipping.com

Tel 2: +20 (62) 319-8141
Fax 2: +20 (62) 319-8140
Mr Mohamed Ismail
E-mail: eclsuz@ecl-egypt.com
Damietta Office:
Tel: +20 (57) 229-0341
Fax: +20 (57) 229-0340
Cell: +20 (12) 274-42280
E-mail: naggardai@naggarshipping.com

maielnaggar 22 Aug 2012 15:25

Please note that the correct and sole agent is AK NAGGAR Group. Contact details are posted later on in the forum.


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