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Old 21 Nov 2007
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Syria,Jordan and Egypt info please?

Hello to everyone,

We plan our trip to Jordan via Turkey,Syria and Egypt,eventualy Izrael for September 2008.
Would you be so kind to help us,what kind of documents we need,border crossing etc.?,so this trip should be our first in middle east.

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Motorcycling in Jordan

At the time I was wroking in Jordan, July last year, the only people permitted to ride motorcycles were the police.
A colleague told me that was under review, but it would be advisable to check.
Jordan is an oasis of sanity in a crazy region. Jordanians are lovely people. Most speak some English ane will make you very welcome.

Enjoy your trip.
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There's plenty on the HUBB, the most recent being Margus's excellent blog with good photos.

You might want to think hard about visiting Israel given its appalling treatment of Palestinians?....just a thought...
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There are plenty of threads on this question of documents but I would point out that if you visit Israel you will have a lot of difficulty crossing back into an Arab country.
Search through the threads on the middle east and you will find all the information you need only going back a few weeks.
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Hello!

We are back from Syria and Jordan from Romania via Bulgaria and Turkey. We had neither international drive permit nor carnet de passage.

So we paid 12 USD for Turkish viza. We didn't know that for transit no visa required.
At Syrian border we paid: 36 USD insurrance / bike + 62 USD temporary import / bike + 1 USD entrance fee / person. We got visas at home for 55 euro / person
In Syria the price of petrol was 30 SYP, or about 0,43 euro (the diesel was 7 SYP - 0,101 euro)
At Syrian - Jordanian border we paid for exit 1 USD / person

At Jordanian border we paid: 22 JD insurrance + 15 JD import, and we had visas for 32 USD / person
In Jordan the petrol was 0,605 JD
At J-S border we paid 5 JD / person + 5 JD / bikes for exit from Jordan (1 JD = 0,95-0,99 eur)

Reentering in Syria we paid again 92 USD (1 bike and 2 person). Don't ask why ...
At the exit from Syria to Turkey we paid 1 USD / person

Turkish visas: 12 USD / person again ... (not knew the transit situation)

Turkish petrol 3,09 YTL what is seems to be 1,81 euro (?? am I right?? horrible!)

All over the countries the people were very friendly.

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Just a thought...if you intend to take Caminando's thoughts with you when visiting here.
You like him, will misunderstand reality.


And when here in Israel, please let me know, I'll be happy to meet.

Ma'asalam

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Syria,Jordan and Egypt

Happy New Year everybody,

Thank's a lot to all that you replyed to me!
Special thank's to you Szaby,hope you enjoyed!
Yoni,if we decide to enter Israel with pleasure of course!

Best wishes to all of you guys and safe journey!
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I'm just back from Jordan and Syria . I recorded a load of GPS tracks while I was there which when I have some time I will try and clean up and share if anyone wants them . If you head out into the desert at Wadi Rum it's quite handy to have a way to get back again
I marked a few intersting Crusader castles and points of interst in Syria too including the Bagdad Cafe on the Damascus highway from Palmyra.
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Happy New Year Gecko!

I read your post exactly few minutes ago,sounds very good really.
As you see we plan to go there in September 2008 and will be very interesting to share the truck's with you,so I use tha same Garmin 60 c.

My best regards and hope to see you somewhere on the road!

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Request for gps tracks and POIs

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I'm just back from Jordan and Syria . I recorded a load of GPS tracks while I was there which when I have some time I will try and clean up and share if anyone wants them . If you head out into the desert at Wadi Rum it's quite handy to have a way to get back again
I marked a few intersting Crusader castles and points of interst in Syria too including the Bagdad Cafe on the Damascus highway from Palmyra.

Hey Gecko,
Planning a trip in September through Syria and Jordan, so would greatly appreciate your info. Also, any tips of when it's feasible for bike and rider to ride around without one or the other breaking?
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At the time I was wroking in Jordan, July last year, the only people permitted to ride motorcycles were the police.
A colleague told me that was under review, but it would be advisable to check.

Judging by the posts above, can we take it that the information in the quote has changed, and it is now OK to get a bike, of any size, into Jordan?

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There's plenty on the HUBB, the most recent being Margus's excellent blog with good photos.

You might want to think hard about visiting Israel given its appalling treatment of Palestinians?....just a thought...
Wouldn't go to Iran/Syria/China either considering their awful human rights abuses. Wouldn't go to America either because of guantanamo debacle. Also wouldn't go to see the pyramids because of their disgraceful treatment of their arab brethrin, they built a big fence to keep them out, and send riot police to beat the ones who jumped over....bastards.

Actually i'll stay at home.

(P.S. funny how all those suicide bombings stopped when israel built themselves a big wall and shut the borders off and the minute a border was breached there was a bomb. If i had Hamas next door, i'd build a massive wall as well on the border and patrol it.)
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Hey Gecko,
Planning a trip in September through Syria and Jordan, so would greatly appreciate your info. Also, any tips of when it's feasible for bike and rider to ride around without one or the other breaking?
Disco
Hi Disco,

Our waypoint's are as follows:
Turkey-Capadocia region,mount Nemrut
Syria-Alleppo,Hamah-Crack de Chavaliers,Tadmur-Palmyra,Damascus
Jordan-Amman,Petra,WadiRumm,Aqabah
Israel-Jerusalem,Bethleehem,Tel-Aviv,Sea of Galilei,Haifa-ferry to Athens-Greece.
Feel free to join us!we leave Bulgaria at around 15-20th of september and all truck's and waypont's recorded.

Cheers,
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Hi guys,

I did the trip two years ago and it was really great. We went to Turkey/Syria/Lebanon (right before the war ) und had a great time. Everything went very smooth, except the border crossing on the Turkish side at bab al hawa. Just relax and do not show up too late at the border. Syrian side was very easy.
What we didn't know at that time: It is possible to extend the Syrian (multiple) visa at the border when we came back from Lebanon. That was the reason why we skipped Jordan (the Syrian visa had to be extended after 14 days in special offices), not knowing that this is obviously possible. If this is the same for the Jordan/Syria crossing, I don't know.


Enjoy!

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Everything went very smooth, except the border crossing on the Turkish side at bab al hawa. Just relax and do not show up too late at the border. Syrian side was very easy.
It always seems to be the Turkish borders which are problematic going back several years; whether it's entering from Syria or Iran.

I wish they'd show a bit more goodwill & flexibility at their crossings in the EU spirit!
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