Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey - carnet required, o stamp in passport?
 

Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey - Is a carnet required, or do they just put a stamp in your passport for the motorcycle?

Thank you.

Carnet is mandatory in Egypt, convenient in Syria. Probably needed in Lebanon as well, but I'm not sure.

Anyway, forget Syria (and Libya and maybe Lebanon) if you have an Israeli stamp on your passport, or even a stamp from a border crossing in a neighboring country leading to Israel.

Just save Israel for last! I managed to visit Israel without getting a stamp in my passport, but I also had to leave my bike in Jordan to make it work (there's a post here somewhere on that topic.)

And take Chris Scott's advice from "Sahara Overland" regarding the question of travel to Egypt... Don't go! If you ignore this advice, you definitely DO need a carnet. You also need lots of patience and good sense of humour.

As for the other countries, I used my carnet for all of them, but I'm not entirely sure if I needed to. It makes things easier, though.

definately no carnet is needed for Turkiye. you just need insurance which you can buy at the border for 15-20 Euros.

Correct, but if you have a carnet you can save money in TR by presenting it on entry.

carnet is mandatory, for egypt only!
not 4 turkey (low fee insurance at the border), sirya (30eu. nov.2003), jordan (same as above), and lebanon (get in throug damascus).
u can get in israel w/out any stamps on your passport. but only if you planned to go out by sea or what else. dont go back to sirya, even u haven't
passport signed, there it will be a void of time to explain to the siryan custom...

Thanks. But if I get the bike on my passport in Israel, then exit to Jordan, then take the ferry to Egypt, then get a new passport issued from the embassy in Cairo without an Israeli stamp, is there any reason why I should have a problem then going back to Jordan, and then to Syria?

If Jordan does not require a carnet, then my carnet will show I exited Egypt at the Jordan crossing. Then it will show that about 6 weeks later I entered Egypt at the same crossing. I could have been in Jordan the entire time. My new passport will be issued in Egypt, and only show Egypt and Jordan before I go to Syria.

What is the problem with this solution?

there is not any problem if "loose" your first passport, and have enough
time to wait for a new one in Cairo. in my case, with five weeks only to reach the Red sea and back to italy, every single day it count...

Have a nice trip.

Check around here, but I'm not sure that's true. I'm pretty sure Sudan does not take passports less than six months old because of people using this trick. I don't think Syria does either.

For ages, Israel has been stamping a blank piece of paper, but if you have a stamp from the border to Jordan, they are going to know what's on the other side of that bridge and not let you in. I recently read here that Egypt will stamp a blank paper when you leave and arrive from Isreal. If that's true, then that's the way to go, but you better make sure.

Is there a problem if your passport is stamped with a Syrian stamp and crossing the border from Jordan to Israel?

If not, I will go from Turkey to Syria and Jordan to Israel and by ship back to Europe comming summer.

It's not so easy to ship to Europe from Israel anymore. (Nothing is impossible.) If you want to enter Israel with no stamp in your passport you can do it via the King Hussein Bridge, but you'll have to leave your bike in Jordan. You'll also have to leave Israel AND Jordan before your Jordanian visa expires.

Sigh. I've posted on this topic so many times on other thread's that I no longer have the energy to repeat myself. The point is, you CAN visit Israel and continue through Arab countries, but it requires a little luck and careful planning (I've done it! And I know others who have done it!).

And, yeah, the "loosing your passport" trick has been done to death. It's tough to get away with these days. (Nothing is impossible.) Too bad.

Passport Stamps at Jordan/Syria Borders
 

Hello hello,

We are a couple planning a route to go from UAE to Jordan/Syria through Saudi Arabia with one motorcycle. We are looking for possible ways to store motorcycle in Jordan/Syria, fly back to UAE, and return to it a couple months later to continue on our trans-Europe trip. And we don't plan to get a carnet de passage as it drives up cost.

Does anyone out there know for fact what stamp they put in the passport when crossing into Jordan and/or Syria? We heard that they write down vehicle information which means we cannot leave the motorcycle behind. Has this happened to anyone? :eek3:

Sorry if this question has been answered somewhere else, but I've searched and can't seem to find a solid answer.

Many thanks,
Shu

Can't answer for Syria or the UAE, but we entered Jordan with our Landcruiser through Aqaba and then left it at the Allenby Bridge border crossing when we did a cheeky little side-trip into Israel - no issues at all. Re the passport stamp thing, you can ask the Jordanians to stamp you out on a separate piece of paper, and the Israelis to do the same thing - that way the passport doesn't show 'exited Jordan at Allenby Bridge' nor 'entered Israel'.