Thanx Pecha

Dont like the idea of meeting up with those dogs one bit.
Dont think we could outrun them going up hill either!!!

Will ponder that.

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Hi DS
Do you have more info about buying Carnet/Temp Paperwork at Iran Border?
I'm looking to Travel to Pakistan (I'm a Pakistani National) and dont have Carnet (and cant have as its too costly n huge deposit).
I read in HU, someone asked for EUR 1,000 & apparently bought for EUR 650. But that's still a lot.

Hello.

My last information about crossing the border with a bike without CdP were related to Sero bordercross. Not sure if they have the same practice in other bordercrosses.

Entrance without carnet is (conditionaly) possible, if you deposit some money for the bike at the bordercrossing. Ofcourse insurance is a must.

For the car, CdP is mandatory.

Regards

Nejc

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I don't believe it!
I have spoken to travellers who have visited Iran without a CdP. They have paid a deposit into a bank and supposedly have it returned when leaving. However, some didn't know they were entitled to it back and didn't get it! (too much money)
I was advised by a company in Kazachstan who arrange guides and visas that this was how one does it. The participants on the Mongol Rally each year don't have Carnets.
Persistence.

Erm... yes they do!

Where did you get that info from? :confused1:

If I've been telling my customers to get them unnecessarily I would feel really stupid. I have no knowledge of anyway around the Carnet system and I do know of people being turned around by attempting to travel through Iran with it.

Mr Rob (Mongol Rally Chief)

I am planning to go to Iran without a carnet, will try my luck on the borders. If they don't like my bike, I'm not too fused, i'll just turn back and head to Iraq

Hi..
I am going in mai this year om motorbike, Iranian friends who live here in Denmark, an go every year back on summerholliday have told me, that I wont stand a chance getting into Iran - without the carnet! ...and if I should try, I should prepare myself of trouble...

Regards..The Dane

I was in Iran without CPD in 2010.
Car LR Defender. I paid 400$ for preparing transit documents to Armenia.
We spent 14 days (transit doc was for 10 days) in Iran and exit this nice country with no problem.
Everything is possible for Polish.
Don't worry, if you travel so many km borders is only thin line.

Keep hearing different answers to this. I dont need a carnet on my journey at all (russia/central asia/europe), except for possibly through Iran. I'd like to get away without one, for just this one country.

Anyone know if its still possible/easy/cost effective to buy the carnet waiver at the border? I'd be coming in via Turkmenistan, and leaving via Turkey.

Thanks

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Previous posts on HUBB re possible "carnet waiver" vehicle entry into Iran have always referenced eastbound entry from Turkey, specifically via primary border crossing at Doğubayazıt, Turkey-->Bazargan- Iran. The HUBB posts have never reported that a "carnet waiver" was possibly available at westbound border crossings into Iran from Turkmenistan or Pakistan. The HUBB posts have all suggested any possible "carnet waiver" was extremely problematic/ uncertain.
Iran clearly requires a Carnet.
Philip--apart from the Carnet issue, you're aware (?) that--assuming you're traveling on a USA passport--US citizens can only enter Iran on a personal visa with a pre-paid itinerary accompanied by a guide from an Iranian travel agency on an itinerary pre-approved by Iranian Ministry of Interior. Assuming you can absorb all the costs of such a required in-country itinerary, Iranian approval of such applications have been very contingent on current political conditions.
And, assuming your Sertao is US-registered, you'd have to separately get your vehicle Carnet issued by Canadian Automobile Association (CAA).

I really hope you can include/ get into Iran on your very ambitious expedition routing. Just need to be aware of the bureaucratic/ political barriers.

best of luck

I'm British but live in the US, so UK passport. NY registered bike though.

I need to research Carnet's!

thanks

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OK. Even with a UK passport, you should allow plenty of time to apply for
Iran visa, particularly if planning entry from Turkmenistan, exit to Turkey, particularly if you're applying for Iran visa from a location outside home country.
Iran govt also tends to be "persnickity"/ unreliable about issuing visas, depending on internal + external political situation.
And, even more particularly, if your bike is registered in different country from passport (US & UK), get some assurance that you'll be able to obtain Iran visa for UK passport, before you apply for Carnet from CAA. Pay attention to (different) paperwork lead times between Carnet application, and visa application.

If you email the folks at CAA, they are super responsive and very helpful. You should be able to obtain the carnet quite easily....and then with your UK passport, you'll also be able to get the Iranian visa. RAC seems to be much more particular with carnets than CAA (as I found when comparing notes with others who had gotten carnets)...so it looks like you've got the best of both worlds going on.

If you're not a AAA member, you should join, you get $100 off of your carnet application fee. THe AAA membership fee is well under $100 too, so win-win. Go with the indemnity option and you won't have to pony up as much cash as well. However, you won't get as much back when you do discharge the carnet...but if you absolutely intend on bringing the bike back or legally importing it somewhere, the guarantee option might be best for you.

Just to stir things up, I have a friend who entered at Taftan / Mairjaveh from Pakistan in December 2009 and did not have a carnet. We met up in Tehran and he must have spent at least two months in the country, then exited to Turkey. The car was a Pakistani registered VW Beetle and the logbook looked like a child's school exercise book. I don't believe he had too many problems when entering. I can't remember how much he paid for the import documents, but I seem to remember it was $400 or $500.

I believe that the less frequently used the border, the more difficult / expensive it is likely to be.

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Am Iranian rider and have motorcycle club there, i passed many times different borders in Iran, the paper work normally takes in hours in many borders, even the Bazargan that is very crudy most of the time. you will need Garnet to inter, but who knows! many thing can done in different way also!