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Old 25 Nov 2010
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Crossing to Egypt without Carnet de Passage?
Hello Guys


Has anyone crossed into Egypt without a carnet de passage?

I read that Egyptians authority has it own carnet in case you don't have it.

Also does this applies for transit visas also?

Currently I am in Israel and any info regarding entering into Egypt will be great

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Hi, On motor vehicles the duty is 800% for entering Egypt, so I would think, if you can obtain a temporary import permit it will be very expensive.

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Hi, On motor vehicles the duty is 800% for entering Egypt, so I would think, if you can obtain a temporary import permit it will be very expensive.

Good luck.
And yet it costs 30% of new value +10% sales tax to fully import a bike less than 1000 cc
Strange eh !
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well, before Feb 2011 it was like...
Before the events of February 2011 most have seen on the news, cost of importing vehicles varied significantly according to your status and to an impossible to understand bureaucratic process characterized by arbitrary and tightly-knit profitable decision making. Have things changed this far, not sure for having been twice at the responsible service in Cairo. As much as I feel being missing a lot, I'm somehow glad not to understand and speak Arabic because I would have gone mad by now, and probably put in jail, I mean dealing with all this is a REAL PITA. I might have been lucky some years back not paying more than 10% to import a 6 years old bike in the country, I would not do it again. Do yourself a favor, fly to Egypt and rent a KTM in Sharm or a DR in Bahareya, or if you're just as sick minded as I am, do get a Carnet to travel Egypt and drive safely, there are seriously dangerous people on the road. But if your dream is about traveling the continent, you may wish shipping your bike directly to Addis or Nairobi and start from there...
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Carnet rates for Egypt
Have the recent events had any impact on the rates for a Carnet for Egypt?
I was quoted on a Unimog based on 800% last year (£6k with £3k refundable) - has anything changed by any chance?


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8x... a deal
Not that I know of, the actual economic outlook sort of make me doubt this is likely to happen any soon. Egypt faces huge challenges at the moment, political, economic, social, etc. Decisions makers have a lot on their plate. Besides, apart from suffering heavily from slowdown of tourism, increased risk on investment, and overall underemployment, they badly need the money. I sense there are chances that fees for entering the country may increase rather than the other way around, except for mass tourism. 8x is a "deal" in this context, but let's be frank and honest, it's in the end just a deposit so it really costs the interest lost/paid on that part of the cost of the carnet. I tend to believe that level is set to protect internal investment by forcing Egyptians to buy cars assembled in Egypt which is good for the few working in factories, but also very good for shareholders. I wonder who were those shareholders before and who they are now. Let's not distract the main topic of this thread, it's safer.
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On Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnet_de_Passage):

"Also from 2006, Egypt now has its own Carnet, available for those without a valid Carnet de Passage at the borders. It still requires a cash deposit (up to 2000 Euros) which is returned upon exit"

If this is the case it would save me over £1k (and avoid tying another £3k up for a year) - anyone know anything about this?

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Hi, On motor vehicles the duty is 800% for entering Egypt, so I would think, if you can obtain a temporary import permit it will be very expensive.

Good luck.
The 800% is only if you get your carnet in the UK. No other country that I am aware of has such a high duty. For example for a carnet from Australia or South Africa it's 200% for Egypt. I think France is 250%. I don't know how much of this is down to Egypt or how much is down to the UK, but it's very strange that the UK is the only country that has to pay 800% for Egypt.
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I've heard it is possible but even the Egyptians say you must have one.

Now, the Egyptians couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. It took me about six hours to get my carnet stamped, plates issued, taxes paid etc etc..

I can't imagine trying to do that without even a Carnet to give them to stamp. A total nightmare and much more open to bribes and secret fees (the Egyptians are the experts on this).

I remember, when I got the ferry from Venice to Alexandria, they wouldn't even let you on at the Italian side unless you had a carnet. You HAD to have one.
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