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Old 1 Oct 2014
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Land Rover with a wheelchair.
I'm not sure it's a question for this forum but I'm trying...
Do you know a solution to carry a wheelchair at the rear of LR Defender 110 (mine)?
If you have any experiences or infos, they are very welcome.
I need a system very simple to remove or without any problem to access to backdoor.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi RR,
I'm thinking you'll probably have a spare wheel mounted on the back door of the LR. If so, then there are bike racks which mount on those spare wheels. Mine takes the weight of two large bikes. The rack would need to be re-designed or modified, but the basic idea might work.

If you don't have a spare wheel on the back of the LR, then it would be easy enough to design a swing gate on the back. I did that for carrying bikes in the Sahara in my Series 2A land rover. The trick is to make sure the chair doesn't eat itself with all the bumping.
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Thanks Richard for your quick reply.
Yes, I have a spare wheel on the back door.
I've found this:
iSi Advanced Bicycle Carrier and Bike Rack Systems - Land Rover Defender
It seems OK with some modifications.
And though enough for desert pistes.
What do you mean by "the chair doesn't eat itself with all the bumping"?
I think there is no big difference between a wheelchair and a bike about bumping.
I'm also seeking for people who have used this product.
(Or another one).
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RR,
I think the rack in your pictures is better than the one that is strapped to the spare wheel that I described. The rack in your photos looks more robust.

'Chair eat itself' - by this I meant that the chair making contact with the rack frame or with the land rover body would do damage. I've been amazed at the damage that gets done to bikes and bike racks when travelling even on quite smooth roads. On a piste I am sure the banging would be a lot worse.

On a black top (tarred) road trip to Scotland this summer, one of the bikes banged against the roof rack ladder and made a big dent in the ladder. That happened even after we spent about half an hour putting foam in place where contact looked likely.

Another thing I have been told is that the exhaust gases can burn their way through alloy so watch out for the exhaust output onto the chair.
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Hi Richard,

Thanks for your reply.

About banging due to desert tracks (and specially "tole ondulée"), I think the feature shown below (includes in Isi product) is OK.
The problem is to adapt the system to a wheelchair, I think.
And I need to know some people using this rack to ask them some questions about using it.


Carbon Safe Frame Cradle

The upper frame cradle is designed for zero load upon the bicycle frame and simply acts as a support to keep the bicycle vertical.. With this in mind, a special section soft, supple and super durable rubber compound is specified on the contact layer with the bicycle frame. With generous thickness over a tough base layer and wide contact area, the special rubber acts as a vibration isolator while the surface layer on the bicycle frame remains in contact at all times for zero rubbing. Any movement is taken up inside the rubber support layers for the maximum support and protection of the bicycle frame. The ultimate protection for carbon and thin wall alloy frames.



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RR,
I think the rack in your pictures is better than the one that is strapped to the spare wheel that I described. The rack in your photos looks more robust.

'Chair eat itself' - by this I meant that the chair making contact with the rack frame or with the land rover body would do damage. I've been amazed at the damage that gets done to bikes and bike racks when travelling even on quite smooth roads. On a piste I am sure the banging would be a lot worse.

On a black top (tarred) road trip to Scotland this summer, one of the bikes banged against the roof rack ladder and made a big dent in the ladder. That happened even after we spent about half an hour putting foam in place where contact looked likely.

Another thing I have been told is that the exhaust gases can burn their way through alloy so watch out for the exhaust output onto the chair.
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Is the chair for your personal use ? ,
and are you the driver of the landrover ?

The reason I ask is that the rear is a hostile area , especially on corrugated tracks , as it will be plastered in dust etc .

I have seen a solution for the driver , that stores the chair on the roof above the drivers door position , when i lived in Australia . If you want further info just pm me .
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Is the chair for your personal use ? ,
and are you the driver of the landrover ?

The reason I ask is that the rear is a hostile area , especially on corrugated tracks , as it will be plastered in dust etc .

I have seen a solution for the driver , that stores the chair on the roof above the drivers door position , when i lived in Australia . If you want further info just pm me .
Yes it is for my personal use and I'm the driver.
I know the rear is not very good, but it's used to carry bikes and I don't see big difference between bike and wheelchair regarding this point.
BTW, this wheel chair can be sold with a bag to transport it: it can be asolution again dust but the problem with the bag is to fix it on the bike carrier....

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it depends as well what level of mobility you have and what arm'upper body strength.

As above stashing it outside may give rise to problems with dust, fitting it inside but easily accessible would be a better solution if you can manage it. I would avoid the roof box solution sometimes seen on cars, where it is craned off, because if it fails (which it probably will in the sort of environments you maybe thinking of going) you could be properly stuffed!
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it depends as well what level of mobility you have and what arm'upper body strength.

As above stashing it outside may give rise to problems with dust, fitting it inside but easily accessible would be a better solution if you can manage it. I would avoid the roof box solution sometimes seen on cars, where it is craned off, because if it fails (which it probably will in the sort of environments you maybe thinking of going) you could be properly stuffed!
Thanks Moggy for your advice.
I know that indode id better solution but I don't have enough space for it (without always removing items...) due to lot of things I have to carry for long travels.
That the reason why I try to find an outside solution.
Finally, I think I'm to look for a solution for carry this wheelchair in his transport bag (which seem very convenient against dust and water) and try to find how to fix it to a rear rack.
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