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Would anyone be able to tell me the internal dimensions of a Land Rover 110 Station Wagon and if possible, the distance from the front seats to the tailgate. I am trying to calculate whether it is more practical to have an internal sleeping arrangement or whether a rooftent is a better option. Thanks
I'll check mine tomorrow, but depending on how far back you have the front seat and at what height you fit it, you'll have just over 6 feet.
I've been debating this in my head for years without result (unless you count NOT buying a roof tent as a result!) I don't like the weight on the roof, wind resistance, opportunities for falling out inebriate, sensation of a small ship in a gale on windy nights, time spent putting up (despite what their fans say, it's still quicker and easier to put up a ground tent unless you go for a pop-up Maggiolina style one - HOW much money??) How many people have been dragged out of their ground tent by a hungry lion? And if the lion's hungry, it's just going to scratch your bonnet before tucking in anyway. The end result will be the same!
Having been horrified by the price of the popups, the only advantage they have is your bed is completely made and ready to fall into (out of too). They take up a lot of space, but what else are you putting up there? Jerrycans? Aaargh, more weight, fuel dripping on the windscreen... Spend some money with someone like me and get some basic auxillary tanks under the floor (any sheet metal worker can make up a tank to your cardboard model design, and for a lot less than some expedition outfitters like to charge)
Hmm. That reply was longer than I intendedWhat it comes down to is: Do you carry a lot of tat? Are you large? Is there more than one of you? Answering yes to more than one of those would indicate sleeping inside the 110 might not be the best option!
Would be interested to hear from people with genuinely positive comments on rooftents, other than trying to justify having bought one, and the heavy rack to carry it, and spent all that money on fuel to push it though the air, and had to avoid a really nice bushcamp for fear of capsizing the rig.
Think I've convinced myself anyway!
OK - firstly to address the question. I am 6ft 1 and 18st on a good day. My wife is 5ft 10 and 10 stone and we both slept in the back of our 110 a few times on our trip. But - each time we did we would have to take all our boxes etc out of the back and put them in the cab to make room for us. This was because the back was designed as an auxillary sleeping place for cities, roadsides etc. It was very cosy - but not something I would have like to have done every night - and that is with all our stuff in the front. We had a false bottom in the back and also a fixed wall cuboard which reduced the room, but I can't imagine you would get moch more room than we had.
Saying that the nights we did do it we slept fine and it was fun.
As for the roof tent, I am guessing mossproof hasn't really used one - I could nerver put up the a ground tent in the less than 5 minutes it took my wife to put up and make our roof tent.
And the one big advantrage of a roof tent that wasn't mentioned is: It is lovely and comfy!!!!
I would say if it's just economics that are driving you, you won't go for a roof tent, but if you can make room for the money somehow, go for it. We sold our old roof tent for 500 pound on ebay .... so you can get them cheaper. Don't forget you will be much more tempted to camp rather than stay in hotels if you get a good nights sleep when you camp.
I'm really at the very early stages of planning what I'd ideally like or need in an overland ready Land Rover. Given that I'm just under 6'6" and 17st maybe the idea of sleeping inside isn't a practical one. Then again, what size are rooftents inside? Any advice on this matter?
I have used Echo rooftents, and faffing about with the cover while standing on roof/sidesteps in the rain when putting up and taking down, plus fitting the flysheet porch rods is MUCH less speedy/pleasant than lifting my Khayam tent out of the back, unzipping the bag, dropping it onto the floor and lifting the roof to allow the legs to straighten themselves. (Or even better, just dropping the swag on the floor and gazing at the stars) A roll of foam is comfy whether it's 7 feet up in the air or flat on the floor.
Out of interest, what type do you use?
The original question has more or less been covered though - 110 not the most roomy spot to spend the night!
Ha - yes I'd say 6"6' is way too big. If you can shrink down to my perfect height you'd just be about OK, and would even have my permission to put on a few pounds - put I'd say you're too tall myself. Unless you like the fetal position!
We started off with a Hannibal roof tent, but my wife made me sell it as it smelt. It was 2nd hand, but not that breathable by the time we got it. We replaced it with a MY-Way - half as light and probably a bit more room. Honestly though - my wife would have the tent up before I had made a cup of tea. Perhaps it's the method you use.... of course these conversations have been had loads. I would agree that a roof tent is an expensive luxury, but if you can afford it you will probably get ten years plus use out of the - and they will be a nice tens years
ggireland - tonnes of room in the roof tent - really loads of it. I ma a big guy and very clumsy and it felt spacious to me.
110 station wagon loadspace internal dimensions:
Length at floor level 2m
Length at waistline (ie half way up the body) 1.8 to 1.9m depending on how far back you put the seat. Of course leaning the seat forward will give you more - up to 0.4m approx
Width at waistline 1.44m
Height floor to headlining 1.2m approx.
It's no T.A.R.D.I.S.!
Due to mobility issues, RTT's, and roof racks, are not an option. The best 110 solution I could think of, is a D110 2 door Hi Top ambulance. With out any modification, interior volume is increased by about 35 cubic feet. That is about equal to a full width 7.5' long roof rack 1' high. Plus, plenty of frame level storage for water, fuel, gas, or anything you want to take, with many options available. I will have 1 lower level bed,convertible to a double, and I am also adding a pop up roof with a double bed. This combo I believe, for a few kilos over standard weight, has the lowest COG, and best increase of interior volume, smallest decrease of performance(no roof anything), and the best bang for the buck. Good luck in your build.
My Lad is 6'7" and he has just finished a 20k trip in his 110. We cut the bulkhead out and he slept with his head between the seats! The bulkhead dosen't do much and is easy to get out. He put a bit of insulation in the roof and his Girlfriend made some pretty curtains but otherwise that was it!
Just wanted to add, if your over 6ft, dont buy a Maggiolina on a whim! We have the standard length one and at 5'10 my feet touch the end (I do like to stretch though). They do longer versions if you really want one. They are excellent tents and much more suited to European and northern climates over the traditional folding types. They are heavy, but as it takes up all of the roof (of my 90) nothing else goes up there.
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