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3 door to 5 five landie conversion - how easy?

Hey Guys and girls,

Now we have a nipper on the way (2 weeks and counting) we are looking at ways of making our landie more practical. I have just taken the skin off most of my knuckles putting in a middle front seat. But the most sensible thing would be to convert to a 5 door I guess.

Do people know if this is practical, and if so how much it might cost. I would be wanting to employ someone to do it unless it was an easy task.

I always get confused by the names of the various landy bodies, but mine is a 200tdi (1992), 110, with 3 seats in the front and the back all blacked out. As this picture shows



My wife thinks it would be cheaper just to sell and buy a five door landie, but I'd love to keep the old reliable beast who took us round the world.

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should be fairly straight forward DIY job, barring impossible to remove rusted nuts and bolts - but you'll need quite a few panels - easy enough to get hold of though.
You would need a B post section, rear tub, rear doors, rear window panels - not sure how you get round the rear bulkhead bit though - station wagons dont have one so I guess the B post does the strengthening? Should all be bolt on/bolt off bits though and everything pops up on ebay pretty frequently. Ask on LR4x4.com as there are a few on there who have done the conversion.
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When I rechassied my 110 station wagon the chassis were the same for the 3 and 5 door but I had to buy an extra cross member to bolt on for the 5 door(station wagon) but cos of this they are easily available galvanised from the chassis suppliers.
All mine has instead of the bulkhead is a hand rail bar behind the front seats.
For the panels behind the second row of seats the ones from an 88" (series 2,2A or 3 swb) bolt straight on with or without the windows. I put van sides on that bit because I didn't need the 3rd set of windows.
You should be able to keep the same roof, I put a 5door roof onto my 3door series3 as I wanted the tropical roof(sadly not an option on the 110) and alpine lights.

Best of luck with it.
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Hi Cornish

easy job, its just bolts.
however dont attempt to build it piecemeal by buying individual components, the B frames alone will cost aprox £300 as this is a common rust point in the 110, good ones 2nd hand are scarce it will quickly become a money pit.

it will take about 4hrs realistically to remove the rear tub, if all is good with the chassis buy a complete 110 station wagon rear tub section from one of the many breakers.

not cheap but cheaper than a newish 110, and you know what you got.
it will realistically take a weekend of long days if it is a straight swap assuming you have spanner weilding friend or two.

have done this twice now helping others with exactly the same problem
last one got done because his dragon in-law asked what the tatty bungy cord on the pram was for.... yep tying said pram and baby to bulkhead.!

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I finished building my 110 station wagon last year. the chassis are the same, like has been said just the addition of the bolt-on "station wagon" crossmember.

I built mine from scratch, so had to source all the parts. rear tub i got from Autocraft4x4_midlands on ebay, MArtin is the chap, got a 2006 rear tub for £300.

pair of B pillars off of the same vehicle for £125, and they were mint!

roof panel and rear end door are all the same so the ones from your hard top will fit. you'll also need a pair of side doors, these can be quite costly (to get decent non-rotted ones)

Best bet is keep scouring ebay, get the bits all together until you've got the whole "kit" and then take a weekend to do the job.

don't forget the interior trim (if you want it)... 110 rear sliding window trim panels are quite cheap, as everyone wants 90 ones, but if you fit series side panels then you won't really need them. there's a few bits of trim over the middle and front doors, I picked mine up on ebay for not much money.
Some middle tow seats (again, got mine from ebay, late Td5 60/40 ones for about £30) mose expensive and akward bits to get were the locks the hold the seats in place (For the 60/40 split seats)

Easy job though, like has been said, just nuts & bolts (and some lifting!)
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Hey guys - thanks for all the advice.

Not sure where its going to lead me, as I am not sure I am brave enough to take it on myself. Perhaps one day I will be brave enough. From what you're all saying is it's going to cost about 500 -1000GBP?

But thanks anyway for the help - at least I know the task at hand
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3 doors...

Here's another alternative - this way you get access to the back without losing all the advantages of a hard-top. It's not something which is worth doing to a station wagon, but if you are starting from a hard-top it might be worthwhile ...

NAS 110

If you are going to rebuild the back then make sure you galvanise all the steelwork while you are at it - the B pillar and the tops of the tub sides - you will be thankful a few years later!

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