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Old 16 Jun 2006
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KTM 640 Adventure - best way to get the best price?

I'm seriously considering buying a KTM 640 Adventure, preferably 2004 or later, but they are super pricey here in the UK. Is anyone aware of any intelligent (and legitimate) means of picking one up at a much better price (for example, buy it elsewhere where it is cheaper - due to FX rates or otherwise - and drive/ship it here)?

Would appreciate any insight you may be able to provide.

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Germany is the biggest bike market in Europe so it follows there are more bikes for sale. The more there are for sale the lower the value should(?) be.

Check out http://www.mobile.de there are 28 examples available starting at €2980 for a 07/2000 model with 25000kms and going up to €5450 for an '03 with 7300kms

Also look at http://www.motoscout24.de - 34 available here starting at €2300 upto €7950

Enough choice?

If you need translation I or several others here can help.

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Thanks a stack John, very informative (and heartening!).

Would you (or anyone else) happen to know what import duties/legal requirements/costs are likely to apply in buying a bike in Germany and then riding it back to the UK (please let me know if there is a more appropriate forum for these sorts of question)?

I'm trying to get some sort of feel for the 'all-in' cost.

Also, not sure if it's relevant, but I don' t have an EU passport (although I am resident in the UK) - are there any implications from a VAT perspective, for example?

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In 1999 I bought a BMW in Germany. At the time, the UK Customs rules were that as long it had more than 6000miles on clock (how would they check?) and is over 6 months old, then there were no VAT chargeable. The vehicle was made in the EU, so there were no import taxes either.

In the UK I had a month to insure the bike (using the chassis no. as id), MOT it, fill out lots of forms and submit all the stuff with a £25 cheque for processing and within a month I had a V5. I rode the bike on a deregister German plate (good for UK speed cameras too...)

With the V5 I could then tax the bike.

As the KTM is built in the EU too, I imagine the procedure should be the same.

I found out all this out in advance by calling HM Customs and Excise at Dover. Give them a call to see if things have changed.

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Chris's reply about sums it up.

You will need a COC - certificate of conformity from KTM UK, (They may charge you for this... don't know), for the reg. process. It just details the specs of the bike and as long as the same model was sold in the UK, its good to go. Don't forget to get a bill of sale (Kaufvertrag) from the seller as I think you need this for the reg. as well

The only thing I would add, is DON'T declare the bike at the port of entry, even if its a new bike. It just gives you and the customs man extra work that is not nessesary... Do it all at your local registration office.

Its easy. More people should do it, especially for models that were not popular in the UK. You get so much more to choose from.
Me and a mate just bought BMW R100 GS PD's this way.

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Guys, thanks very much - this has been very useful. Will let you know how things turn out in due course.

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Hi StoppyJoe,

I have a very nice 640 Adventure for Sale. I live 60 km south Paris. I just join the forum when I found your post. If you are still looking for a fine 64O ADV, let me know I will send you all info and photos you need.
This is my 3rd LC4 type, I love it but I have to sell it!
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Hi,

Any chance of some info and pictures of your KTM?

I too am looking for a good specimen!

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