GOSH! I'm a fool! I've done it! - Horizons Unlimited

**badwolf** · #1 17 Jan 2004

Ok, ok!

I've allways saied that that ike is too much stuff, and I was affraid for affordability but...

GOSH!

I've buyed it: on monday a back Adventure 950 MY 2004 will be parked near my grey Adventure 640 MY '01.

:-|

I don't know why I've done that... I'm scared... that bike seemed to call me "dad"... :-|

:-P

Now... the only model of rear tire 150-70-18 seems to be Pirelli Scorpion

and those are not even close to my humble idea of a dual purpose tyres... :-|

Any suggestion, without taking the risk of riding with tires out of measures of the omologation chart for the 950?

Bye

Pietro (aka Badwolf)

P.S.: no! I will keep the 640! ;-)

**Steve Pickford** · #2 17 Jan 2004

I'm available for long term tyre testing should you be confused in any way, six months should doit I reckon. A second opinion is very important I feel.

Deeply jealous, enjoy the bike.

Steve

**Lucky Explorer** · #3 18 Jan 2004

Pietro(Badwolf)
I too have a 950 and am using Metz Karoos a 140 on the rear. In Europe is a Karoo 150/18 tho not available in the USA. A 140 Mich Desert works too. Conti TKC 80 in a 140 is available and that is a great dual sport tire. All the above have 21 front sizes. I hope that Conti will come out with a 150/18 soon?? Enjoy that wonderful bike!
Allen.

**badwolf** · #4 19 Jan 2004

Quote:

Originally posted by Allen Naille:
Pietro(Badwolf)
I too have a 950 and am using Metz Karoos a 140 on the rear. In Europe is a Karoo 150/18 tho not available in the USA.

Mhhh... in a 140-80-18 format there are the Michelin Baja too that are excellent dual purpose tyres, but...

... here in Europe police is a little concerned with bikes with wrong size of tyres... they often take your bike's homologation sheet and send you to the TUV (here in Italy "Motorizzazione") to a severe inspection of your vehicle... :-/ Very unpolite of them ;-)

Insurance is unpolite too so, if you have an accident with a vehicle not compliant with the homologation sheet, they don't pay for the damages... :-|

BTW Metz Karoos don't give you woobling? I've tested them, but I've found that tyre awfull: over 130 Km/h rear wheel seems soap! :-(

Quote:

Originally posted by Allen Naille:
Conti TKC 80 in a 140 is available and that is a great dual sport tire. All the above have 21 front sizes. I hope that Conti will come out with a 150/18 soon??

Conti=Continental?

Never tried... I'll test them ASAP. Many thanks!

Quote:

Originally posted by Allen Naille:
Enjoy that wonderful bike!

Thanks Allen!

I'm just a little scared by the moment, but I'll be allright! ;-)

Bye

Pietro (aka Badwolf)

**Lucky Explorer** · #5 19 Jan 2004

Pietro,
Sorry about the 140 sizes, I did know about Italian laws and forgot. But understand that the Continental Twin Duro TKC 80 is also a 140, I am just hoping they will produce, eventually, a 150 as they make a 150/17 for the BMW GS. As for the Karoos, I am using the 140/18 and the 90/21 and have had no wobble in 600 miles, I intend to wear them out the end of the month on a trip. That Euro 150 model might work better.

**Freek** · #6 21 Jan 2004

@Badwolf;

New european law, says the tyre make/type on your bike papers, is just an advise.

Here's a german article about it;

http://www.adventurebike.de/Technik/...enbindung.html

Here in the Netherlands, we're free to chose the tyres we want. It only needs a DOT#.

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Freek (NL)

**badwolf** · #7 21 Jan 2004

Quote:

Originally posted by Freek:

New european law, says the tyre make/type on your bike papers, is just an advise

Hi Freek! :-)

Of course it is just an advise... I'll tell you more: here in Italy, in the papers of your bike are stated just the measures... but...

... the real question is: "who makes rear tyres 150-70-18 70V"?

In my Adv 640 M.Y. '01 papers, the measures allowed for tyres are:

front: 90-90-21 54R, 120-70-17 58R
rear: 140-80-18 70R, 150-60-17 66R, 160-60-17 69R, 130-80-18 66R

Anybody knows why KTM, on the Adv 950 M.Y. '04 allows just 90-90-21 54V (front) and 150-70-18 70V (rear)?

In this measures I can't use Michelin Desert-Baja, and is a pity... with those tyres is impossible the easiest off-road! :-/

Don't you agree?

Bye

Pietro (aka Badwolf)

**Lucky Explorer** · #8 22 Jan 2004

Peitro,
The Karoo in the 140 wears fast, not sure about the 150 Euro model. The Mich Desert goes 5000Kms and even on much pavement. I have run 3 of them in the past. I don't like the Desert fronts, they wear very uneven, and get hi/lo wear patterns. The Baja is a softer compound and wears faster. I got 7000 Kms on Cont. TKC 80's on a GS ADV. and mostly pavement. A friend got 9000Kms. and we both always are 2-up and luggage. Those miles are on Chinese roads. What I don't know is how well the TKC's do in sand.
Allen.