From Albuquerque to Creel

[buggs]

I am highly considering at make the meet at Creel. I live In Albuquerque, New Mexico and will be using my DR650. Anyone attending from this part of the woods, I could possibly hook up with?

[dzguy]

I might be heading down through your neck of the woods. What route do you plan taking?

[Wheelsucker]

Interested in meeting in El Paso for the ride down? I'm trying to find some people from the east coast or south to go with, but being 4 months away it might still be early.

Also looking to see if anyone is interested in sharing one of the cabins in creel, doesn't seem like there's a lot of hotels down there.

[Lone Rider]

Originally Posted by Wheelsucker

Interested in meeting in El Paso for the ride down? I'm trying to find some people from the east coast or south to go with, but being 4 months away it might still be early.

Also looking to see if anyone is interested in sharing one of the cabins in creel, doesn't seem like there's a lot of hotels down there.

Creel is Spanish for Hotel.
There are many hotels in Creel. No problemo.

The best border crossing for you would be Presidio/OJ. That puts you 320 miles (one day) from Creel. The 3 Palms Motel in Presidio will let you leave a truck/trailer.

As the event gets closer you'll see more activity over on ADVrider as people start spouting off their plans, and Presidio/OJ is always a popular crossing with people east of the Pecos.

[Sjoerd Bakker]

Lone Rider hits it squarely on the nose , plenty hotels for Wheelsucker to choose from in Creel . Wheelsucker , you and others heading down into Mexico , might be interested in my booklet of Economical Hotels which lists four of the many hotels in Creel as well as many more in the surrounding region and along the approach roads from the US border. These will serve well as economical choices for folks like you who would like to know that a room is available other than at deluxe franchise hotels in the few major Mexican cities along the way . $15 US gets you directions to over 430 hotels in Mexico plus 150 more in Central America. For some more background info on this booklet see the posts of 18 March'07 under "how to find pensions/rooms for rent " or just send me a pm. Now is the ideal time to get ready.

[hook]

I hope no one takes this the wrong way. Guide books, in general, suck. A "great guide book" is an oxymoron- though I believe some point out important sites/places to see. The successful ones simply draw tourists like moths to a flame. Folks that sell guide books often like to play on peoples fears. We've all heard riders express fear about riding alone in South America, Africa, etc. Fear of the "unknown" has people joining groups, buying books and visiting websites. If you're heading south of the US border, you don't need a guide. There are loads of places to stay. You'll do better staying in some small or new place as yet undiscovered by the guide books. Head south and and have fun, let the experts enjoy living WAY north. BAKKER, please go sell your guide elsewhere. For those interested, there is a page on the HUBB called "bike friendly accommodation," or something similar- use it. Post good/bad info as you see fit. If you want to sell things on HU, do the right thing and pay HU first. Am I the only one growing tired of people selling on this website? This morning I found 4 adverts from someone selling TV's and cell phones...

[Sjoerd Bakker]

Hook, , your point is taken, however there is no need for you to have sent me such a beligerant and insulting pm as you did. You could have pointed out politely that there was an area in the HUBB introduction pages which explained the availability of some inexpensive advertising options , as I read them now, and I will follow up on that . In my nearly two years dealing with posts on the HUBB I had never taken the trouble to read that material as I felt it didn't concern me , not having anything to sell untill very recently. If Grant feels that I have unfairly taken advantage of the HUBB , my apologies. I thought I was only passing along information similar to as was to be read in many other postings which offered used bikes, clothing and some other items for sale to any interested party.
I never claim that my little attempt at a guide to economical hotels is indispensable, or that it is "great" ( Hook's word) , just that it might be of interest and useful to the infrequent or first - time visitor who is unfamiliar with the culture and the language and has worries about finding any rooms in places he has never been.
From the tone of this recent pair of pm's and another nasty one from you , Hook, many months ago on a totally unrelated topic I must surmise that you have some anger management issues .Perhaps they are the results of days of frustrating dealings with annoying middle-eastern bureaucratic bunglings of border officals in your current world tour. Please don't take your frustrations out on me .In your second pm today you used the terms "...in all honesty..." and "...in fairness to you"... as if they were equivalent, and so they are , but the absence of one precludes the other.Your pm s were neither.

[Lone Rider]

Bakker has visited some weird (good) places, lots of them way off the regular tourist trail.
I'm too lazy to catalog and record all the good and bad places I've stayed. $15 ain't squat, and might even be recovered the first time you roll into an unknown town after dark.
Guide books and maps can go hand-in-hand, and they do provide a small comfort level, IMO. Nothing is perfect...hence it's an adventure.

Ride, explore, learn......

[Grant Johnson]

Advertising policy is simple:

If it's a used or not needed/ordered in error etc. piece of gear, or guidebook whatever, no problem - that's what the For Sale section is for!

BUT if it's new and you have lots to SELL - No.

Very simply, we are advertising supported - and why would an advertiser pay if he can get it for free - or sees others getting it for free?

See the adrates sheet - link on left near the top - for more on why you should advertise on HU.

26,000 users a day to start...

[Grant Johnson]

NOTE: abusive PM's can get a user banned.

Keep it polite guys, you do know how! It's easy to say something on a keyboard that you wouldn't dream of saying face-to-face - but remember that one day you might be face-to-face, so careful and think before posting! We're TRAVELLERS remember, and we have a duty of good manners to others.

[Wheelsucker]

Originally Posted by Grant Johnson

NOTE: abusive PM's can get a user banned.

Keep it polite guys, you do know how! It's easy to say something on a keyboard that you wouldn't dream of saying face-to-face - but remember that one day you might be face-to-face, so careful and think before posting!

They can kiss and makeup when we they meet. Maybe share a sleeping bag together

Just kidding guys