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martync 14 Jun 2005 18:32

transalp 600 stoppers
 
I would like to make my TA better at stopping, I've added a steel line and changed the fluid and got ebc pads. Is there a cheap way of adding another caliper and disk etc,

obvious is the 650 version but second hand there arent any parts about. Any other honda twin disk front wheel that may fit I can get from a breakers.

I am not after major work, just a quick fix if there is one, otherwise I'll buy a newer bike when the time comes.

PaulJ 14 Jun 2005 21:23

not sure about the method of adding an extra caliper but to get a wheel with 2 disks that would fit, why not try the later versions of the 600cc Transalp? I have a 97 and a 99 and they both have twin disks (and no you can't have one of my front wheels http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/smile.gif )

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Steve Pickford 15 Jun 2005 14:16

Quote:

Originally posted by PaulJ:
not sure about the method of adding an extra caliper but to get a wheel with 2 disks that would fit, why not try the later versions of the 600cc Transalp? I have a 97 and a 99 and they both have twin disks (and no you can't have one of my front wheels http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/smile.gif )


No use getting the wheel alone, you need both forks to have a caliper mount.....

Easiest way is a complete front end swap, using forks of the same diameter, same approximate length & same size wheel.

Africa twin may the way to go? Too long & you'll slow the steering down, too short & you'll speed up the steering, suffer a slight loss of stability & suffer reduced ground clearance.

The other way that may be cheaper & easier is to find a larger diameter Honda disc that has the same mounting points on the wheel hub. Larger diameter will allow the fitment of a 4 pot caliper & no need for another brake line. Stick with the stock m/cyl until you've tried it out - smaller can be better (1/2" is best for one 4 pot). You'll also need to fabricate a caliper carrier to mate the caliper to the forks.

GSX-R Niisin calipers are good & readily available, as are the pads.

I fitted a 320mm Exup disc to an FZR600 front wheel, mated to a Nissin 4 pot, all on GSX1100 forks & all fitted to a DR600. Worked fine, bit too fierce, one finger braking.


martync 15 Jun 2005 17:18

thanks for the info, AT route sounds best from a breakers. If not think I'll be looking for a v strom

frnas 15 Jun 2005 17:43

The AT have 43mm and TA 41mm. So you need the triple clamp also. And only the lower triple clamp from AT RD04/RD03 fits.


chris 15 Jun 2005 19:00

I read somewhere that a German put a Honda XR600 forks/wheel etc onto his TA. No idea of precise sizes etc.
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Steve Pickford 15 Jun 2005 19:30

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Originally posted by chris:
I read somewhere that a German put a Honda XR600 forks/wheel etc onto his TA. No idea of precise sizes etc.
ChrisB

He wants a twin disc set up, XR's are single disc I believe?

LordStig 16 Jun 2005 19:18

The only way has to be the later 600 front end unless you go the larger disc or different (more pots) caliper route. All are expensive, but are you really sure you need it? Mine were always weak in the brakes department, but in reality they did work, and that 90/90 front tyre has enough to cope with as it is. I liked the braking for off road and slimy tarmac - much more forgiving! By the way, the EBC pads aren't the best.

Stig

*Touring Ted* 8 Feb 2006 15:42

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Originally posted by Steve Pickford:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><HR><font face="" size="2">Originally posted by chris:
I read somewhere that a German put a Honda XR600 forks/wheel etc onto his TA. No idea of precise sizes etc.
ChrisB



He wants a twin disc set up, XR's are single disc I believe?
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yes, all XR's are single disc. What size is your disc ?? if its a 220 , putting a 320 will help an great deal. If its already a 320 then changing the master cylinder can inprove the braking by increasing the pressure. The only downside to this is that you lose allot of the "feel".

Simon Kennedy 8 Feb 2006 19:46

Back in the 1980s, the TA was lighter and more serious about its off-road pretentions. One disk was enough.

For touring - maybe two-up - with luggage, it's another matter. I put on an aftermarket disk (EBC I think), as well as the steel lines. This helped a lot.

Look here for options:
http://www.ta-deti.de/ta/rotors.html#front

Fiddling with wrong-size calipers from other bikes is too much hassle - bodging brakes, now that's just not a good idea is it?

Change the disk or change the whole front end for a late '90s double disk model. They are your options.

Simon

martync 25 Feb 2006 22:27

Just incase anyone is interested in this thread, sintered brake pads did improve the braking. although they wear out the discs qicker, the disks aren't expensive anyway.


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