Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Honda Tech

Honda Tech Honda Tech Forum - For Questions specific and of interest to Honda riders only. Questions comparing which bike is best etc go in the "Which Bike" forum.
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 14 Jun 2005
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Perth
Posts: 258
transalp 600 stoppers

I would like to make my TA better at stopping, I've added a steel line and changed the fluid and got ebc pads. Is there a cheap way of adding another caliper and disk etc,

obvious is the 650 version but second hand there arent any parts about. Any other honda twin disk front wheel that may fit I can get from a breakers.

I am not after major work, just a quick fix if there is one, otherwise I'll buy a newer bike when the time comes.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 14 Jun 2005
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 184
not sure about the method of adding an extra caliper but to get a wheel with 2 disks that would fit, why not try the later versions of the 600cc Transalp? I have a 97 and a 99 and they both have twin disks (and no you can't have one of my front wheels )

------------------
My website
Africa Trip web journal
__________________
Africa Trips web journal
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 15 Jun 2005
Steve Pickford's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Oxford, UK
Posts: 1,028
Quote:
Originally posted by PaulJ:
not sure about the method of adding an extra caliper but to get a wheel with 2 disks that would fit, why not try the later versions of the 600cc Transalp? I have a 97 and a 99 and they both have twin disks (and no you can't have one of my front wheels )

No use getting the wheel alone, you need both forks to have a caliper mount.....

Easiest way is a complete front end swap, using forks of the same diameter, same approximate length & same size wheel.

Africa twin may the way to go? Too long & you'll slow the steering down, too short & you'll speed up the steering, suffer a slight loss of stability & suffer reduced ground clearance.

The other way that may be cheaper & easier is to find a larger diameter Honda disc that has the same mounting points on the wheel hub. Larger diameter will allow the fitment of a 4 pot caliper & no need for another brake line. Stick with the stock m/cyl until you've tried it out - smaller can be better (1/2" is best for one 4 pot). You'll also need to fabricate a caliper carrier to mate the caliper to the forks.

GSX-R Niisin calipers are good & readily available, as are the pads.

I fitted a 320mm Exup disc to an FZR600 front wheel, mated to a Nissin 4 pot, all on GSX1100 forks & all fitted to a DR600. Worked fine, bit too fierce, one finger braking.

__________________
My photos: www.possu.smugmug.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 15 Jun 2005
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Perth
Posts: 258
thanks for the info, AT route sounds best from a breakers. If not think I'll be looking for a v strom
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 15 Jun 2005
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Norway
Posts: 68
The AT have 43mm and TA 41mm. So you need the triple clamp also. And only the lower triple clamp from AT RD04/RD03 fits.

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 15 Jun 2005
chris's Avatar
Probably out riding
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: God's Own County
Posts: 2,294
I read somewhere that a German put a Honda XR600 forks/wheel etc onto his TA. No idea of precise sizes etc.
ChrisB

------------------
TheBrightStuffDotCom
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 15 Jun 2005
Steve Pickford's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Oxford, UK
Posts: 1,028
Quote:
Originally posted by chris:
I read somewhere that a German put a Honda XR600 forks/wheel etc onto his TA. No idea of precise sizes etc.
ChrisB
He wants a twin disc set up, XR's are single disc I believe?
__________________
My photos: www.possu.smugmug.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 16 Jun 2005
LordStig's Avatar
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Fife, Scotland
Posts: 96
The only way has to be the later 600 front end unless you go the larger disc or different (more pots) caliper route. All are expensive, but are you really sure you need it? Mine were always weak in the brakes department, but in reality they did work, and that 90/90 front tyre has enough to cope with as it is. I liked the braking for off road and slimy tarmac - much more forgiving! By the way, the EBC pads aren't the best.

Stig
__________________
Tall men see everyone else's bald patch but their own.......
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 8 Feb 2006
*Touring Ted*'s Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 4,470
Quote:
Originally posted by Steve Pickford:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><HR><font face="" size="2">Originally posted by chris:
I read somewhere that a German put a Honda XR600 forks/wheel etc onto his TA. No idea of precise sizes etc.
ChrisB


He wants a twin disc set up, XR's are single disc I believe?
</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, all XR's are single disc. What size is your disc ?? if its a 220 , putting a 320 will help an great deal. If its already a 320 then changing the master cylinder can inprove the braking by increasing the pressure. The only downside to this is that you lose allot of the "feel".
__________________
www.TouringTed.com
1994 XR650L
2001 NX650 Dominator.

BMW Dealer Technician
Welder/Fabricator

Ushuaia - Colombia 2007/8
UK- South Africa 2010/11
India 2012
Yukon 2012
S.E Asia 2014
U.K - Magadan 2015
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 8 Feb 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nantes, France
Posts: 397
Back in the 1980s, the TA was lighter and more serious about its off-road pretentions. One disk was enough.

For touring - maybe two-up - with luggage, it's another matter. I put on an aftermarket disk (EBC I think), as well as the steel lines. This helped a lot.

Look here for options:
http://www.ta-deti.de/ta/rotors.html#front

Fiddling with wrong-size calipers from other bikes is too much hassle - bodging brakes, now that's just not a good idea is it?

Change the disk or change the whole front end for a late '90s double disk model. They are your options.

Simon
__________________
Simon Kennedy
Around the world 2000-2004, on a 1993 Honda Transalp
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 25 Feb 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Perth
Posts: 258
Just incase anyone is interested in this thread, sintered brake pads did improve the braking. although they wear out the discs qicker, the disks aren't expensive anyway.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 
 
 

NEW! HU 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar is now available! Get your copy now for some terrific travel inspiration!

HUGE, 11.5 x 16.5 inches, beautifully printed in Germany on top quality stock! Photos are the winning images from over 600 entries in the 9th Annual HU Photo Contest!

Horizons Unlimited 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar.

"The calendar is magnificent!"

"I just wanted to say how much I'm loving the new, larger calendar!"

We share the profit with the winning photographers. YOU could be in the HU Calendar too - enter here!


HU DVD Autumn Special!

Take 40% off Road Heroes Part 1 until October 31 only!

Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries two-up on a Harley); Dr. Greg Frazier (5 times RTW); Tiffany Coates (RTW solo female); and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).

The first in an exciting new series, Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers."Inspiring and hilarious!"

"I loved watching this DVD!"

"Lots of amazing stories and even more amazing photographs, it's great fun and very inspirational."

"Wonderful entertainment!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'HEROES' on your order when you checkout.


Renedian Adventures


Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 18:09.