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Old 17 Nov 2010
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Honda Transalp: Will 1998 pd10 parts fit a 1988 pd06 frame?

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I own a 1988 pd06 Transalp with a good low miles engine/electrics etc but some nasty features on things like /forks/brakes/swingarm etc. I've just bought (but not yet collected) a 1998 pd10 with a big gas tank (34 or 38 litres?: small weenie means need for big tank ) but a blown engine.

I could try to swap the 1988 engine into the 1998 bike, but this requires skills I don't have as there are all sorts of issues with electrics compatibility/ carb jet sizes etc. Also the 1998 bike has paperwork issues and would require payment of import taxes and the like as it's from abroad.

I have the skills to unbolt stuff from the 1998 bike and bolt it onto the 1988 chassis.

Are both chassis the same, particularly with regard to the shock/ swingarm/ shock linkage mounting points?

I am aware that the 1987/1988 shock and linkages are different from the 1989-onwards bikes: But are the mounting points on the frame the same or different? If they are different, how different? Can things be easily welded?

Is the stearing head the same or different? Are the petrol tank mounts the same?

I've already guessed that, assuming the swingarm fits, I'll have to somehow mount the rear brake fluid holder onto the 1988 frame (1988 bike has drum brake, 1998 has disk).

Any comments are much appreciated.

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I believe the pd06 and pd10 frames of the models built between 1989 to 1999 are the same (can anyone confirm or refute this statement?).
Tying in with my original question and assuming the above is correct has anyone ever tried to attach a swingarm and shock and linkage from a 89 to 99 Transalp onto a frame from a 87 or 88 bike?
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In answer to my own question: The 2 chassis are virtually identical. My 1988 pd06 chassis (that used to have a single front disc, rear drum etc) now has a 1998 pd10 (double front discs, rear disc) forks/yokes, rear shock/linkages, swingarm and wheels.

The only thing that needed doing was welding lugs onto the 88 chassis to take the rear brake master cylinder and the reg/rec mount modifying to also take the brake fuid reservoir.

The geometry is very marginally (a few mm) different on the front and back. The bike sits a bit higher too. This might be because the old running gear off the 88 bike was a bit shagged or because of this different geometry.

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Hi chris,

Do you know if the fairing/frontcowl/windscreen of the PD06 will fit on the PD10?

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I will be able to tell you within the next few weeks if the pd10 front end fits a pd06 frame. Having had virtually 2 rolling chassis before I swapped the forks/suspension/swingarm etc I recall from a cursory inspection that the instruments/cowling holder frame mounts (on the headstock) looked very similar. It's wet and dark outside now and I'm unable to go into the garage to check.

FWIW, I believe the 199? to 1996 pd06 modern looking headlight is the same as the 1997-1999 pd10 one (as opposed to the 1987 to 199? square boring looking bus heading style). I can't see why the Honda engineers would bother re-tooling a Transalp chassis production line just because the marketing dudes come up with a new fairing design.

Will let you know when I've done my headlight swap.
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Big tank/small weanie

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I've just bought (but not yet collected) a 1998 pd10 with a big gas tank (34 or 38 litres?
You don't happen to know what it came off do you..?

I fancy a bigger tank for my 1999 TA600 but they're hard to come by.

Come to think of it, didn't you have an AT tank for sale a while ago..?
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You don't happen to know what it came off do you..?


Come to think of it, didn't you have an AT tank for sale a while ago..?
Tanks f�r Honda TransAlp XLV600, XLV650


Yes, sold it to a chap in Australia
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I will be able to tell you within the next few weeks if the pd10 front end fits a pd06 frame.
It does.
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Thanks Chris! Very useful for me.
I like the big tanks, but they are more expensive than the bike...
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