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Old 9 Dec 2005
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Doubleplay,

We were hardly thinking about it...But did not want to miss Romania though!!!
I don't even need a Visa for Turkey!

Wouldnt it be worth to cut thru Bulgaria to Turkey and then take a ferry to Greece?Or we would be wasting too much time?

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Fernando,
I live in the USA but keep a sailboat in Turkey and spend a lot of time there.
I also have been in Bulgaria and Romania.
Maybe I am being biased but IMHO there is nothing that you will miss by not visiting Romania,Bulgaria for that matter if you visit Turkey and spend some time there.You can cut trough Romania and Bulgaria(2-3 days the most)and enter Turkey from Edirne ride to Istanbul spend couple days and keep on riding down the Aegean Coast to Marmaris where you can take a ferry to Rhodes and than to mainland Greece from there.Along the way I can assure you that you will make a lot of stops at places like Ephesus,Bodrum etc...Central Anatolia and Kapadokya are also great places but I don't think you have time for that.
Again in my opinion there are two places I would not miss during a motorcycle trip across the region specially in Summer:Turkey/Greece and Crotia.Keep me posted I will be in Turkey and Greek Islands during summer and might help you more if you need.
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Doubleplay,

That's great, exactly the sort of info we're after...

We're probably gonna spend a couple of days in Romania, and one day in Bulgaria...then do what you've said, it sounds great!

How about the way out of Greece, we'd like to head North-west following the Croatian coast but did Not want to cut thru Albania (loads of people saying, DO NOT GO THERE)...Any thoughts about it?

We're definitely gonna keep you updated about the trip, and would love some help when we get there...Thanks very much!

And if you have any other advice, please post it!!!We'd never thought how difficult it is to plan a long trip...

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fernando>> sorry, but I did not have the time to answer, vara has fuel range- I mean my fuel range is 6.5-7l/100km... this is on road 140-160km/h with passenger or offroad single

budget for my trip was 50euro per day/cca 500km
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did Not want to cut thru Albania (loads of people saying, DO NOT GO THERE)...Any thoughts about it?
I have a couple of women friends who have been to Albania recently. They say it's their favourite country. Search the HUBB...
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Croatia: Dubrovnik, "Jadranska magistrala" (adriatic route - very scenic 600km coastal route), Plitvice national park and that's about it.
Slovenia: The Alps, as someone mentioned here. Go to Bled, Bohinj, climb across Vrsic pass go down to Trenta valley, Kobarid, Bovec, and than hit Italian Alps (Dolomites). Tuscany is really nice, East French Alps, Cote d'Azur...

4 months in total? Well, you can do a lot in that time, but try to make sort of a daily plan and maybe post it up, and then let us argue about the countries we know if your plan is feasible...
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Beddhist,

Very good to hear that, and they went there a year ago, so it should be even better now...

Noise Data,

We're gonna do it, actually we're trying to, but it's been quite difficult...But definitely it will be the only way, cause when we think about the whole thing it seems impossible!!!

BTW, thanks very much for the info about the balkans...

We'll keep you guys posted, and up to now ALL the help's been invaluable!

We've already got the first night, Paris...
Staying there for a couple of days and then heading to Germany...Any info about the Black Forest?Well 1 day out of 120 it's a good start, innit??hehe

Thanks very much all...
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Fernando,

não achas que estas a fazer um itinerario muito apertado para a quantidade de paises que queres visitar?

Quando viajo dou-me conta que muito dificilmente consigo cumprir os planos, por isso agora faço de outro modo, meto-me à estrada, e vou fazendo dia-a-dia o meu itinerário, com base na meteorologia, cashflow, e vontade/curiosidade no momento, deves achar que é de louco fazer desta forma mas tenho-me dado bem com este método.

Habitualmente tenho tendencia a fugir de lugares muito frios, com temperaturas abaixo do ponto de congelação.

É só mais um input, espero que disfrutes muito da tua viagem, acho que deve ser esse o objectivo principal.

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I would definitely put Turkey in your plans... and you will never be disappointed while having a nice Ionian sunset with nice fish and some "Turkish Raki" here around Izmir.

Let me know if you add the country, so that I may provide you guidance for details.

Have a nice trip

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Anton,

Muito Obrigado

I really appreciate your thoughts, but I think we have to have at least something planned, not that we’re gonna book ALL the hotels before we hit the road, but we’ve got to know which way to head to…

In order to allow everyone to understand your post I’ll translate it, because it’s got some valuable information and more people can use it:

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Fernando,

Don’t you think that you’re planning to visit too many country’s for the time that you’ve scheduled?

When I travel I rarely can follow the schedule, therefore I do it in a different way, when I get to the road I start planning day by day, following the weather forecast, “cashflow” and the moment desire/curiosity, you might think I’m crazy, but it’s been working very well for me.

Usually I tend not to go to places that the temperature is bellow 0ºC.

To finish off, I hope you enjoy yourselves on the trip, that is the most important thing.

Anton

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Can Ozcan,

We have indeed included Turkey in our plans, we’ll probably be heading from Romania/Bulgaria, and from Turkey we’d like to take a ferry to Greece, so if you have ANY tips please, let us know!!!

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Dear Fernando,

i really envy you on the trip you are going to do, i wish i had the time to do the same, if you decide to show up in Lisbon plse email me.

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Check the email address on my profile.

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Anton,

You might know how things are in Brazil, that's why we're trying to do such a trip now, because we have to go back in 2007 and God knows if we're gonna be able to come back to Europe one day...

Anyway, thanks very much and we certainly will e-mail you, we're planning to be in Portugal in September, and would love to meet up for a Beer (Or a Porto)!!!

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Fernando, try to make it to next years HU Travellers Meeting in Portugal - well worth it, and a great time!

See the Meetings page for details.

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Definitely Grant,

Will make our plans to be there in the end of Sep!!!Would be fantastic after 4 months on the road...

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