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Old 23 Apr 2009
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kobold, have a look at this link: Karar Özeti
Can you briefly translate it, please, in a couple of phrases?
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I appreciated your research skills. How did you find this court decision?

It says there is a new regulation (issued on 23/07/2003) and 4x4, SUVs are M1G and speed limits are same as all M1 class vehicles. Some people applied to high court asking them to cancel that regulation.

The decision of the court briefly is; 4x4 and SUV should be considered in M1 (M1G) class (as a type of car) and should not be considered as Off-Road vehicles as before the new regulations. So, the speed limits are 50/90/120 for 4x4, SUVs. (M1G).

So, you can safely drive 90+%10 in intercity roads. (me, also) Also, thanks that i learned the vehicles classes and the relatively new regulation.

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Ozgur
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Well, I've been using Google since its 5th day of existance in the late '90s (before that I was using excite, yahoo and other metacrawlers and search engines).
If the information is indexed, I'll find it. You won't see me asking questions on forums, speccialy about fuel prices or what kind of will I find in a certain country

Thanks for the translation on the court decision. I used google to translate it in several languages I know to be sure I don't misunderstand something but I wanted to be absolutely sure. I will print it and use it if the case might be.

I didn't get any reply from EMG yet and I don't think I ever will.

One other thing. I joined the other day a Turkish Polis forum and I asked the same question. Nobody could give a definite answer making excuses they are not traffic police officers.
One moderator there finally posted the simple form of speed limits in Turkey (without the vehicle categories M1, M1G, N1G ....) and said that Jeep's fall in the "Arazi Taşıtı" category so they have the same speed limits as motorcycles. About the same time I posted the court decision on this forum, I posted it on the police forum as well, together with a link to the law, and quoted the M1G category specifications (in Turkish).
10 minutes later another moderator said that I joined there to ridicule them and the topic got locked
Typical police action and reaction

All's well when ends well. At least we got to the bottom of it.

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Cip
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Lol. Typical reaction of Turkish police to cover up their lack of knowledge. (they usually try to bully when you insist on something.) I don't think most of the Turkish traffic police knows about the vehicle classifications and also I think most of the people in Turkey who owns a 4x4 still thinks the speed limits of their vehicles are as Off-Road vehicles (like me before this post.)

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