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It's going to be a long 300km...
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Old 26 Feb 2006
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Originally posted by kevinrbeech:
Sorry Dennis you Townie, but I have to disagree. (lighthearted comment before anyone gets upset)
True Greenlaners do not damage lanes, "mudpluggers" do.
A legal byway, greenlane, is a road that has not been surfaced. It is the responsibility of the local authority to ensure that it is passable by motorised vehicles and all other road users for that matter. I was one of the founder members of a group called FoDRoW (Friends of Dorset's Rights of Ways). We joined with the local council as a groups of volunteers to open up and repair greenlanes that had been neglected for many years, you can read more at www.fodrow.com. We have filled in muddy holes with many tons of hardcore to improve the condition of many of these lanes. Unfortunately I have seen the damage caused by the mudpluggers to these lanes and realised that whatever you try to achieve for the benefit of others there is always someone out there trying to spoil it.
Anyone that wants to wallow in mud should go to a pay and play site and leave the greenlanes to the people who want to use them as legitimate access to the countryside. I have to admit I hardly ever drive greenlanes now, I save my off roading for somebody elses back yard in Tunisia.
I should add I'm a 4 wheeled traveller.
Dennis, I tried to be factual and general in my reply, not personal and insulting like yourself. I cannot be responsible for what others write on the forum.
Other posts of yours that I've read seem to be written in a similar style.
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Yes i've noticed that too Kevin.

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Having just read the Faber Maunsell report, it would seem that motorcycles only contribute to 5% of the use of green lanes.

quote from the report:---

"Table 5.16 sets out the numbers and proportions of motor vehicle traffic and non-motorised
users observed. In summary:
• pedestrians, with or without dogs, were the vast majority of non motorised users;
• more than twice as many cyclists were observed than equestrians;
• no carriage drivers were observed;
• non-motorised users exceeded motor vehicle users by 205 to 146;
• agricultural and goods vehicles comprised 36% of observed motor vehicle traffic. While use of
these vehicles may occasionally be recreational, it is much more likely to be associated with
land management or business purposes;
• 4x4 estate car type vehicles comprised 34% of observed motor vehicle traffic. 4x4 vehicles
may be associated with land management, recreation or access to dwellings;
• cars comprised 26% of observed motor vehicle traffic. Car traffic is most likely to be
associated with recreation or access to dwellings; and
• at 5%, the proportion of motorcycles observed was low. However, if recreational motorcycling
is concentrated at the weekend, as suggested by user groups, this is not unexpected."

Has anyone else actually READ this report before jumping to conclusions about damage caused by motorcycles?

The report can be found at http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-cou...rchrep-veh.pdf


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Nothing like a few facts to set the record straight!!

I read an antis tirade once where they blamed landrovers for ruts 3 feet deep, must be those aftermarket tyres, or maybe it's the agricultural usaege? I used to regularly drive a very well maintained route in Cambridgeshire. during the sugar beet season it was a quagmire, although it quickly recovered again. I only recollect once seeing what appeared to be other recreational users in the 5 years I lived in the area and regularly drove it.

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