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Exclamation Green card issue with EU

Green cars is obligatory and due to buy at the borders of Albania and Montenegro.

What about EU countries like Greece, Italy, France, Spain? I know green card is not obligatory. So why to have a green card? Can someone explain please?

What is the issue about Croatia?

Should I buy insurance in Turkey before leaving for those countries?


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We really need a sticky for this, has come up many times in my short life here!.... I don't know how to do such a thing

Anyway, green-cards are technically not required in the EU anymore. This is due to insurance companies within the EU being required by law to provide minimum-level coverage for travel in all EU countries. (i'm paraphrasing, but I think this is close enough). Some companies do issue green-cards still, but they are not required to. Insurance is however a requirement, and it's illegal to ride without it.

If you live in the EU, and want coverage for outside EU your insurance coverage is a situation between you and your insurer. Some lucky people will have an insurance company that covers you for places outside the EU, (and issues and green-card that says so), others not. If not, you will have to buy some at the border.

If you don't live in EU and have non-EU bike, it comes down to country by country, insurance co by insurance co. Check with your insurer if you are covered for the EU (or can you purchase it). I believe it is illegal to ride in the EU without insurance coverage, how often they check, I don't know. If your company will issue a green card this is best, as it means translation etc. is less of a problem if somebody asks you to show your insurance, and your papers are all in another language.

Keep in mind, the green card bought at border normally only covers damage you do to other people (i.e. 3rd party liability). It does not cover you or your bike.

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We really need a sticky for this, has come up many times in my short life here!.... I don't know how to do such a thing

Anyway, green-cards are technically not required in the EU anymore. This is due to insurance companies within the EU being required by law to provide minimum-level coverage for travel in all EU countries. (i'm paraphrasing, but I think this is close enough). Some companies do issue green-cards still, but they are not required to. Insurance is however a requirement, and it's illegal to ride without it.

If you live in the EU, and want coverage for outside EU your insurance coverage is a situation between you and your insurer. Some lucky people will have an insurance company that covers you for places outside the EU, (and issues and green-card that says so), others not. If not, you will have to buy some at the border.

If you don't live in EU and have non-EU bike, it comes down to country by country, insurance co by insurance co. Check with your insurer if you are covered for the EU (or can you purchase it). I believe it is illegal to ride in the EU without insurance coverage, how often they check, I don't know. If your company will issue a green card this is best, as it means translation etc. is less of a problem if somebody asks you to show your insurance, and your papers are all in another language.

Keep in mind, the green card bought at border normally only covers damage you do to other people (i.e. 3rd party liability). It does not cover you or your bike.

Graham

Thanks a lot Graham,

So I need to buy green card and also insurance separately... huh, will be expensive.
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Thanks a lot Graham,

So I need to buy green card and also insurance separately... huh, will be expensive.
Yeah, if your company in Turkey doesn't cover you, I think so! Just to clarify the 'green card' is simply a document saying what insurance you have, it isn't something separate you have to buy.

Do a search for ARISA, that was the company I remember people talking about, but there are others also. You might find something on this forum or maybe advrider. I am sure I heard somebody mention 22 euro's a month for EU coverage. So it's not badly expensive. Do a search and i'm sure you will find something.
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So I need to buy green card and also insurance separately... huh, will be expensive.
Samy,

Turkey is a signatory to the "Green Card" agreement and so if you have insurance there, your insurance company should be able to issue you a green card for travel to other countries that are signed up to the agreement so long as they are willing to cover that risk - MINIMUM cover that the visited country requires by THEIR laws.

The Green Card is an accepted form of proof that you have such cover. A white piece of paper like many UK insurance companies provide does not cut it in a lot of places.
On the reverse of the green card is a list of all the countries that it is valid for. Any place that is crossed out, you need to buy cover at the border.

The Green Card System is managed by the Council of Bureaux in London.

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