hi, thinking of going from germany to norway or otherwise if there is a by passing road, anyone knows how expensive is the ferry to cross into norway or otherwise if there is a road to by pass the ferry? (other than going through russia),

last question, how cold would it be in the next weeks in norway and would it be possible to sleep out side in a tent ?
looking toward the fjords!

best regards and thanks!

Last year we rode from Frankfurt to Copenhagen, Denmark, Gothenburg, Sweden and then up to Oslo, no ferries (but a couple of big toll bridges). From Oslo we followed the coast all the way up to the Lofoten Islands and then Nord Kapp. On the return from Nord Kapp we came through Finland and Sweden then took a short ferry from Denmark to Germany at Rodby. Sorry, I don't recall how expensive that ferry was.

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thanks, at least it's possible...

You can see it on any recent paper map or online on Google Maps or ViaMichelin.com

Google "Kobenhavn Denmark map".

Good luck. Norway is beautiful !

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In addition to Ekke's description above of non-ferry road Germany->Norway; there is ample ferry service from either Kiel, Germany->Oslo; or from
Hirtshals, Denmark -> Kristiansand, Norway, e.g.,
Hirtshals to Kristiansand Ferry Crossing - Ferries from Hirtshals to Kristiansand
You can easily research ferry routes and prices yourself on that or many other websites.

If your real interest is fjords--good!--ferry to Kristiansand puts you at the very southern tip of Norway, and the beginning of the best fjord roads all the way north to Bergen, then Trondheim. Check out maps.google.com, or
viamichelin.com, as jkrijt suggests. Other info sources:
Travel to Norway - Norway official travel guide - visitnorway.com
http://www.camping.no/zpinnorge_eng.html
http://www.nasjonaleturistveger.no/en

Tent sleeping entirely possible in Norway--better from June 01--on "private"
land, in many campgrounds, which also have extensive system of low-cost so-called "hytter" (small cabins).

yeah, the issue now is getting a motorcycle...
heard in germany they won't sell to a non-citizen as you have to write your insurance with a resident place...

so would have first to find a place in europe either to buy a motorcycle or hire one or either make some sort of arrangement, all the other things would then get along.

Lots of ways to get from Germany to Norway. In addition to the above, you can ride through the Baltics, with a short ferry from Tallin to Helsinki, or take a long ferry from Germany to Turku (three days--I was bored, but I sure did catch up on my sleep), or ride through Denmark and ferry over to Goteborg then north by road....

These should all be obvious on any good map. Do you have one? If not, are you planning to get one?

enjoy,

Mark

yes, i'll get a map or either a road book once there would be an option for a motorcycle...

Simplest way coming from Germany to Norway is drive to Hirtshals in Northern Denmark and get a ferry (Colorline) to Christiansand (only about 3.5 hours or so) and not excessively expensive, but depends on your vehicle size.

Camping not a problem in the Western Fjords, but please be aware that, especially around Bergen, it can be quite wet. Not an issue if you have decent camping gear (i.e. preferably not a Lidl or Aldi special!). If it gets too wet, then there is the option of the Hyttes as already mentioned.

We used official camp sites the whole time and these averaged €30/night for the Wohnmobile, including showers, electrical hookup, 2 persons & a dog. Most had free WiFi and Oslo was by far the most expensive camp site we used.

We were in Norway last year (19 August - 5 September) with a Wohnmobile/Motorhome and went as far north as Alesund and returned via the Colorline Larvik ferry, because the Christiansand ferry was full.

Last year it was apparently one of the wettest summers in living memory. Yeah, I guess they always say that :-). My wife found it too cool, but it was OK temperature wise for me.

Fantastic scenery of course, so enjoy. Wild camping is permitted subject to some basic rules (one night stay and 150m away from any inhabited property, etc. Naturally, you cannot camp in someone's garden or in a cropped field and be sure to clean up after your stay).

Food prices in the supermarkets are about 2.5 times more than in Germany and I think diesel was about 23% more expensive than in Germany last year, but the exchange rate then was about 7.5-8.0 NKr /Euro. Now the Euro is weaker. If you want to drink, bring your own alcohol and it is sensible to bring as much of your food with you also, to keep a grip on costs.

Remember that there are road tolls for some stretches of road/tunnels and also for cars/motorhomes, etc. environmental charges for entering major cities like Oslo, Stavanger, etc. If you are not driving a motor bike, which will be exempt, you should sign up for the Norwegian Autopass system on-line. You pay something like €39 upfront with a credit card and toll charges are automatically deducted from your account via Automatic Number Plate Recognition system cameras. Any unused cash will be refunded after about 3 months. You will also need to use a lot of small ferries in the fjord region (or drive round the fjords which can be even more expensive depending what you are driving).

Oh yes, one last thing. Don't speed, even a tiny little bit!! Norwegian speeding fines are horrendously expensive and apart from front facing fixed cameras, the police can do checks even in the most remote places. Figure on €800 fine for a 20km/h excess in a 80km/h main road. You cannot drive fast in the fjord region anyway - just relax and enjoy the magnificent scenery.

Grey Beard

big thanks for the info .

take the ferry from Kiel to Oslo . dont go to denmark or sweden. spend the time in norway, thats where the good roads are.

I dont know if you have already left or not but... I can recommend this route.

Oslo, Norge til Oslo, Norge - Google Maps

it will take you to these places and lots of others:






That will take you to the places that are worth seeing the most in Norway.

Have a great trip !