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Can I safely travel to Germany???

Angriffe auf Hamburger Polizei: Autonome attackieren Beamte - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Panorama

Hi, does anyone know about the situation in Germany? Looks like a armed conflict is about to break out? Have any Countries reacted to this and released travel warnings? Thanks 4 advice!
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Hi! Don`t worry about that. As I can see, this was initially only a demonstration (for whatsoever). Sometimes in inner cities this leads to violence by some bored lower social classes. They misuse peaceful events to exert violence against government covered by a crowd.
This is something, that may happen nearly everywhere in the world, not only in Germany. Bigger cities are more vulnerable to that. For examble although Munich is a really safe city, I would not stay in the wrong corners by night.
So as I wrote initially, don`t worry, visit Germany and have a nice journey!
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I agree to alper - it was a demonstration in hamburg that endet up in violence. As far as I know, decades ago some people of the left radical scene had occupied a building (or buildings) and now they are worried about an evacuation by authorities/police.
Although this isn't good, it is nothing more than a local incident limited to a district of hamburg

So don't worry, here in germany everything is ok and you can spend nice holidays
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Germany is a fantastic place to visit (and live, was lucky to be there for a year), don't be put off by one protest, these can (and do) happen anywhere. The people are fantastic, the cities beautiful, the country more so, the is great, I'm going back on June, can't wait :-)

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Have to say I was marooned in Frankfurt for a day in September (flight change) on the way back from Ukraine this year.

SO many homeless people and so much graffiti in the city, its the first time I was in Germany in over a decade. Seems the misery there is as close to the surface as in the rest of western Europe.

Really it reminded me of all the things I hate about the EU and the west in general. Ukraine seemed so much safer to me.

And I always liked Germany over the years. Normal German people are still every nice though!
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I am actually German, living in Stockholm, Sweden, for 14 years now. Last year there had been some riots (mainly frustrated, unemployed youth, mixed with some notorious criminals) who started focusing their frustration on the police by throwing stones and burning cars. My own company (a large multinational company based in the US) issued a travel warning for those subburbs of Stockholm. This was very strange reading for me, because I live less than 5km from those subburbs where the riots took place. My own neighborhood was totally quiet!

Statistically the most dangerous place in Stockholm (which is for sure one of the safest cities in Europe!), for example, is not one of those subburbs. It's the central square in the city on a saturday night, were lots of drunken people are present around after the pub visit, who might get in conflict with each other!

For such cases of riots, the normal measures of safety apply: follow the news, don't visit areas were demonstrations happen, avoid large accumulations of people. Those riots are very much focused on small areas.

All western and northern European countries are comparatively save! Remember: here we are not allowed to own guns and use them for self defense, like some other big country in west. That is were I am feeling very unsafe, knowing that every i.... could pull a deadly gun on me, because he feels threatend by me, being 1.71m and 70kg...

What Germany, Sweden and many other countries experience right now is a migration of poor people from the east, mainly Romania, because the state there does not manage to supply it's own citizens with basic welfare. So of course many of them move to the "rich" countries and try to make a living by begging. And of course many of those live on the streets.

So don't be affraid of Germany or the Germans, we are very handsome people with lots of good food, good , great scenery and fantastic motorcycle roads!
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Germany, as far as I'm concerned, is one of the better counties to visit in terms of safety and that feel-good-factor
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Thanks to the OP for making us aware of the hypocrisy and double-standards how the "West" issues travel warnings
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Angriffe auf Hamburger Polizei: Autonome attackieren Beamte - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Panorama

Hi, does anyone know about the situation in Germany? Looks like a armed conflict is about to break out? Have any Countries reacted to this and released travel warnings? Thanks 4 advice!
hahahaha

people believe in media.

I was at this day in hamburg, and living in a hotel 500 Meters away from the "rumors"
All we saw was a lot of bandits in black and blue uniforms

No, seriously, funny what people think outside what happens.

But be careful, the germans kill every foreigner and hang them on the streets.
Then they take your money and your bike.....
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Germany, as far as I'm concerned, is one of the better counties to visit in terms of safety and that feel-good-factor
Agreed - got to be one of the safest countries to visit!
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But be careful, the germans kill every foreigner and hang them on the streets.
Then they take your money and your bike.....


Really strange that people are so easely scared and afraid for nothing...
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You'll be just fine as long as you don't mention the war, although if you do mention it, you might just get away with it. H'orderves, we most follow orders. Who actually started it? Who invaded Poland first?



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Good luck. Germany is very very dangerous!
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Seriously, the scariest thing you are likely to encounter in Germany is

NO SPEED LIMITS ON THE AUTOBAHN

- which is, let's face it, either or depending on your riding style/habits!
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my wife had to nip home to Belarus the other week, apparently according to the news there the UK was completely flooded and the only way to get round London was by canoe!
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the UK was completely flooded
Would you like a fire instead? (Actually we've had a bit of rain to put most out now, thanks.)

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