3rd party insurance Ukraine, Russia, Mongolia, Kazakhstan,

[KenButler]

I know that I can't get insurance for my bike once outside of the EU, so have to hope like hell that I don't have a problem.

However does anyone know if I can buy 3th party insurance at the borders of Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Russia, Mongolia? Or is there another process

[Hemuli]

Anyone has good suggestions where to get 3rd party insurance in Atyrau, Kazakhstan?
I asked hotel and they said greencard is enough... I highly doubt it if something happens.

[Nadsicles]

Don't know where you can get it BUT met two travellers recently who did have greencard and it was OK. We bought insurance at the border because we got stopped so much in Russia, and thought the Kazakhs would do the same. Wouldn't bother again though as we didn't get stopped once although we did have several incidents. But do make sure you register your visa within 5 days, even if you're not stopping in one place. All the paperwork and agencies say you don't have to do this and we didn't but we got arrested at the border as a consequence when trying to get back into Russia. Do it at a hotel but you have to ask them to do it. Its free.

[Hemuli]

Originally Posted by Nadsicles

But do make sure you register your visa within 5 days, even if you're not stopping in one place. All the paperwork and agencies say you don't have to do this and we didn't but we got arrested at the border as a consequence when trying to get back into Russia. Do it at a hotel but you have to ask them to do it. Its free.

Got this done today in Atyrau.
Spent quite much time for searching an immigration office, but found it finally from N47º 05.603´ E51º 55.270

Ok, so sounds like I do not need this insurance for "showing to the police".

[TravellingStrom]

You WILL need 3rd party before you leave the country, I would buy some asap, unless you use the other paperwork to get out, I mean folding green stuff inside passport

[Hemuli]

Originally Posted by TravellingStrom

You WILL need 3rd party before you leave the country, I would buy some asap, unless you use the other paperwork to get out, I mean folding green stuff inside passport

Will get one a bit later today. At least then one worry less.

[nigel_tailyour]

I found this office in Ukraine in Lviv. I rode through Poland and then made a bee-line for Lviv to get the insurance. It was only £20 (in 2013) for 2 weeks.
The office is
AXA Ukraine,
Lychakivska 47
79010
Lviv
+38 097 486 5585
Mr. Okesand
r.samsonov@axa-ukraine.com

They are open the usual office hours.

[mark k]

Myself and and friend rode through Russia, Mongolia, and Ukraine last year without any border insurance or green cards.
We were asked once in Russia but pretended not to understand and after 5 minutes the Policeman let us go.
They were more intereted in the internation driving permit and vechile documents, maybe we were just lucky

[moggy 1968]

I had an accident in Russia and was mighty glad of the insurance I bought at the border. I thought it was probably worthless but it certainly wasn't. I would have been in a right pickle without it.

It doesn't cost very much and you are quite literally playing Russian Roulette if you don't have it. It's just not worth the risk. I think you can get a policy that covers a number of Eastern European countries.

Also, as above, you can have problems leaving countries without insurance documents from the date you entered. I have had mine checked on leaving countries before (Belarus)

[WesleyDRZ400]

In Ukraine, Russia & Kazakhstan i brought my basic insurance cover at the border all less than 20USD each i think

When you enter just pass the border posts go to the little huts/containers changing money extra and the pointed out where to go.

[TravelBugBlues]

What if the bike is registered to a country where you don't live? Can you still get insurance just at the border, no problem? I'll be in Russia, Mongolia, Stans, Turkey and into Europe.

I rode in Europe last year with a bike I bought in London (I'm from the States), and couldn't get insurance anywhere. Only afterwards did I realize I needed to just lie and say I was currently living in Europe. Is it the same in other countries?

Also, anyone know anything about biking a bike in Korea to start my trip?

[casperghst42]

Originally Posted by TravelBugBlues

What if the bike is registered to a country where you don't live? Can you still get insurance just at the border, no problem? I'll be in Russia, Mongolia, Stans, Turkey and into Europe.

I rode in Europe last year with a bike I bought in London (I'm from the States), and couldn't get insurance anywhere. Only afterwards did I realize I needed to just lie and say I was currently living in Europe. Is it the same in other countries?

Also, anyone know anything about biking a bike in Korea to start my trip?

You need to have insurance no matter what. If you're involved in an accident then you will be paying the rest of your life if you don't have an insurance. Also in some countries they will stop your trip until you have insurance, including a fine.

In all countries except the UK, and insurance is issued with a green card which will cover all countries in the EC incl. some of the eastern and mediterranean countries.

As for getting an insurance, some people use an CO address in the country where they bought the bike to get an insurance, if that is not an option Polly and Doug (Motocamp Bulgaria) have a contact who can issue insurances for Europe.

Not having an insurance is not smart....

Casper

[Pongo]

This thread has just made me look at my insurance cert to see where i'm covered. My insurers in France are AXA and not only do they identify all the countries where it's valid, they also put the addresses of the country agents on the back of the certificate. My AXA insurance is valid both in the Ukraine and Russia, but not in the stans or Mongolia. It's also valid in Turkey, India, Tunisia, Israel and Albania!

[nigel_tailyour]

You can find out where the AXA agents are in the countries that you plan to travel to by using their website.
If you have an insurance certificate on your person (no matter what the complications are that you mention) then keep it with you.
Take your insurance and your passport into the AXA office and simply buy some more for this new country. You usually get 28 days for not much money.
Allianz are also well represented
In Ukraine there is an AXA agent in Lviv who simply dealt with the matter in 20 minutes.
In Morocco there is an AXA agent 30 minutes South of Tanger Port (if you miss the guys on the ferry terminal that also sell insurance.)

[rockwallaby]

Just like Pongo, I too am with AXA France for my bike there.

When I went to my AXA agent this year I asked them if I was covered in all the countries listed and they said yes, you are covered in those countries.
I was amazed, I can ride all Europe and through Russia with the bike covered and for theft as well, all for a few hundred Euros a year.
That's far cheaper than what I pay here in Australia, plus no yearly registration in France either. I think I should move there.

Then when I come back to Aussie land I simply call them up and say the bike is in locked storage and not being used, so I get a reduction for those months I'm not using it.

Pongo, the only country you seem to have that I don't see on my assurance is India.
I have Israle, Iran and Ireland and Iceland, but no India listed on my cover.
Yes, all the contact addresses and details are on the back for each country, how easy is that.
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Paul