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Dodger 31 Jan 2010 22:45

Wolfman Luggage
 
I thought Tedmagnum would like these !
Wolfman Motorcycle Luggage

My son reminded me that it's his birthday soon,[ I'll let you know how they fit his DRZ ].

They look to be the best designed waterproof soft luggage I have seen so far .

*Touring Ted* 31 Jan 2010 22:54

I bought the enduro tankbag and its the best made tankbag i've ever seen !!

Highly recommended, expecially for odd shaped enduro tanks.


Those sidebags look great. I'd of had some if I didnt have smelly old 30 year old canvas 58 softbags ! My new favourite things :)

Dodger 31 Jan 2010 23:04

[quote-- I have smelly old 30 year old 58 softbags ! My new favourite things :)[/quote]

I hope you'll be very happy togther !:innocent:

Big Yellow Tractor 1 Feb 2010 08:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedmagnum (Post 274401)
I bought the enduro tankbag and its the best made tankbag i've ever seen !!

Highly recommended, expecially for odd shaped enduro tanks.

I have one; great for bits you need to get to quickly; camera, phone, woolly hat, Ginster's Pasty, etc.

Mine's not that waterproof so I have a drawstring bag inside just to make sure. Also means I can remove all the contents if I leave the bike. I find the bag a PIA to take off. Be great if it had a harness that stays fixed on the bike.

I like the '58 pattern paniers. At least if you want to fit another strap somewhere or repair a rip you can do it easily. Nice "look" as well. I have some ortlieb bicycle panniers that look a bit like the wolfman side bags with some straps missing. They are small but I hope that will stop me carrying too much crap.

MarkShelley 1 Feb 2010 13:54

I have some of the tank panniers and they are well made.

*Touring Ted* 1 Feb 2010 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Yellow Tractor (Post 274451)
I have one; great for bits you need to get to quickly; camera, phone, woolly hat, Ginster's Pasty, etc.

Mine's not that waterproof so I have a drawstring bag inside just to make sure. Also means I can remove all the contents if I leave the bike. I find the bag a PIA to take off. Be great if it had a harness that stays fixed on the bike.

I like the '58 pattern paniers. At least if you want to fit another strap somewhere or repair a rip you can do it easily. Nice "look" as well. I have some ortlieb bicycle panniers that look a bit like the wolfman side bags with some straps missing. They are small but I hope that will stop me carrying too much crap.


I find it strange that you find them hard to remove ! Its only 3 little clips on mine...

I suppose it depends on your bike design and how you attach the front strap. Mine is very simple and I can take it off in less than 5 seconds and back on in 10 !!

I'm going to use mine for my 'Cyclepump' 12v pump and my other tools.. No room for anything else.

Big Yellow Tractor 2 Feb 2010 06:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedmagnum (Post 274534)
I find it strange that you find them hard to remove ! Its only 3 little clips on mine.

Mine just has long straps with plastic buckles; maybe I have an older version !

I'll have another look at their website and see if I can modify.

*Touring Ted* 2 Feb 2010 07:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Yellow Tractor (Post 274613)
Mine just has long straps with plastic buckles; maybe I have an older version !

I'll have another look at their website and see if I can modify.


2 plastic buckles on the side and long strap for the headstock which has a plastic buckle....

It's the front one which takes the longest as it has to be routed.

robopie 4 Apr 2010 17:11

Tank bag buckles
 
I couldn't figure out how to lace the buckles and secure w/ a single rectangular loop. Seems like it would be better with double D loops to lace around what ever points front and rear of tank. I also wasn't impressed w/ the large Duffle. Too many frick'in straps, open top. Hate to be negitive, but this stuff went back.

Magnetic tank bag and simple duffle that you lash to the bike.

Redboots 4 Apr 2010 18:33

These look useful:

Amazon.com: Classic Accessories QuadGear ATV Tank Cargo Bag (Black): Sports & Outdoors

John

markharf 4 Apr 2010 23:19

I tried my best not to answer this one.....but it bumped to the top once too many times. I've got Wolfman roll-top panniers and they leaked copiously from the start--in a driving rain they'd fill up several inches deep with water before the outflow equalled the inflow. I quickly learned not to put anything into them which couldn't get thoroughly soaked. Don't know what model, but they weren't cheap; they now gather dust in my garage while I tour South America with hard cases instead.

Your mileage may et cetera.

Mark

*Touring Ted* 5 Apr 2010 06:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by markharf (Post 283829)
I tried my best not to answer this one.....but it bumped to the top once too many times. I've got Wolfman roll-top panniers and they leaked copiously from the start--in a driving rain they'd fill up several inches deep with water before the outflow equalled the inflow. I quickly learned not to put anything into them which couldn't get thoroughly soaked. Don't know what model, but they weren't cheap; they now gather dust in my garage while I tour South America with hard cases instead.

Your mileage may et cetera.

Mark

That's dissapointing. Can you tell where they let the water in ? They "look" like an Ortlieb roll top type design and material which is tried and tested to be water proof.

Maybe you should contact Wolfman for a refund :)

markharf 5 Apr 2010 12:44

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 283852)
That's dissapointing. Can you tell where they let the water in ? They "look" like an Ortlieb roll top type design and material which is tried and tested to be water proof.

Maybe you should contact Wolfman for a refund :)

I was using them in front, bungied to my crash bars (following various failures of the original straps). I never found where they were leaking, but given the material itself was robust, presumably the seams or closures leaked. Once committed to a long trip, what difference does it make? For better or worse, their maiden journey took me to another continent, so I just kept using them.

There was no question of getting a refund or repairs so far from home--a good reason to buy the best gear available as a general rule, and a better reason to always try it out before over-committing. I did the first, but not the latter.

I've had similar experiences with other bike gear, notably my leaky riding clothes. Yeah, they're guaranteed....but what good is a guarantee when you're on the road in another area of the world?

As I never tire of saying, your experience might be different. Just consider me one date point among many.

Mark

(from Curitiba, Brazil: blessedly free from mosquitoes and decidedly cooler than the coast)

Mickey D 5 Apr 2010 18:53

Mark,
Were you using the bags shown here:
Wolfman Motorcycle Luggage

Far as I know the above bags are new this year. These are like the Ortlieb bags with some sort of fold over/roll up flap closure. I've not used this type of saddlebag but many seem to like them, at least the Ortlieb bags.

I did use an Ortlieb duffle with a fold over flap. Never was sure if I was doing it right or not. Too fiddly, too many straps and buckles. I prefer big, waterproof, YKK Zippers.

markharf 6 Apr 2010 02:49

Nope. Mine were older, simpler and less visually obtrusive (i.e., they were black).

skierd 9 Apr 2010 02:24

I really like the Wolfman Enduro stuff, enough that its all I use on my bike, I've got the enduro tank bag, tail duffel, and saddle bags. Stuff that needs to stay dry goes into waterproof stuff sacks, everything else fends for itself. but tends to not get too too wet. All up it gives me about 38 liters of storage space, plenty for my needs, and I'm always amazed at just how much you can cram into them with some organization.

markharf 9 Apr 2010 15:47

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Originally Posted by skierd (Post 284408)
Stuff that needs to stay dry goes into waterproof stuff sacks, everything else fends for itself. but tends to not get too too wet.

Maybe we differ in our willingness to accept "tends not to get too wet." If you travel in areas where it rains a lot and the humidity makes it difficult to dry stuff out (e.g. much of the world), or if you spend time riding where stuff left out to dry tends to develop legs (e.g., much of the world), stuff that is "not too wet" gets moldy pretty quick, and what doesn't mold often rusts. This doesn't work for me.

Of course, I double bagged whatever I put up in my Wolfman panniers, but not only did I find this a royal pain in the butt, but each time I loaded or unloaded I felt resentful at the fact that I paid top dollar for a well-regarded product which inexplicably failed from the start--both by virtue of leaking in the first place, and by not at least incorporating a drain grommet so that when it leaked it wouldn't start filling with water which couldn't escape.

The technology exists for truly waterproof soft bags and clothing. Mountaineering gear, yachting clothing, and kayaking bags all prove this to anyone who's paying attention. Motorcycle suppliers are making deliberate choices, for whatever reason, to sell us stuff which doesn't work. I find this offensive, since I'm generally willing to pay whatever it costs in order to, say, carry my bike documents in a pocket of my $600 jacket without getting them soaked through each rainy day. Instead, I double-ziplock them, and I'm careful to pour out the standing water from my pocket if I've been riding in the rain. This is made-in-America quality? (rhetorical question)

Glad I got that off my chest once again. Onwards!

Mark

(from the world's most luxurious hostel, Foz do Iguacu, Brasil)

skierd 11 Apr 2010 06:11

Fair enough, though it would be interesting to know where they were leaking. Haven't yet had issues with mold or rust with my packing methods either (probably because my bags aren't made of waterproof fabric and hence will eventually dry on their own and not fill up with water), though I've been bitten by the growing legs phenomenon.

Funny you mention clothing, part of the reason I don't use waterproof luggage is from my experience with 'waterproof' riding gear, and the concern of having the waterproofing compromised on the first crash or tree snag, hence using the dry sacks I used when I was a backpacker, ziplocs, and a small pelican box or two to keep stuff dry.

Dave
(from the dilapidated confines of my apartment's living room in exotic Towson, MD :Beach:, waiting for summer break to escape from the grind to the Appalachians for a few weeks again)

iainnic 30 Dec 2011 18:29

I've been looking at these bags as an alternate to metal cases for a GS800 on Touratech frames. Are people saying that these leak, as the blurb claims waterproof and the fabric / design looks good

Iain

Austin 30 Dec 2011 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by iainnic (Post 361108)
I've been looking at these bags as an alternate to metal cases for a GS800 on Touratech frames. Are people saying that these leak, as the blurb claims waterproof and the fabric / design looks good

Iain

Hi Iain, my son has a pair of these for his XT600. You are welcome to pop over and have a look at them to see how they fit, offer them up to your bike, check out the fabric etc etc. He is home from from University for the next couple of weeks, although as he doesnt take his bike with him they'll still be here.

cheers

Austin

markharf 31 Dec 2011 02:27

" Are people saying that these leak, as the blurb claims waterproof and the fabric / design looks good"

All I was saying is that mine leak copiously and are not well-designed (despite use of robust fabric and stitching). I bought them about five years ago and they were like that from the start. Maybe newer models are better, but I'm not inclined to find out.

Mark

Jake 31 Dec 2011 13:30

Try looking at Enduristan luggage - it is waterproof and it is very very well built. Enduristan: Wherever you ride


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