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Old 16 May 2009
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Winch for Motorcycles ?

Is there such a thing as a Winch for Motorcycles ?

It could be practical when alone stuck in mud.
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I have one, but then we are talking about a Ural so its a tad heavier than most bikes (unless you swamp riding with a goldwing, that is...).

Anyway mine is the sort of crank winch used to pull small boats on to the trailer, but its heavy. Not an issue in a siude car but cumbersome on a bike.

Otherwise there are the sort that have an arm that you move back and forth to wind the cable. These are lighter, but most have a short range of about 3-5m max. Between my winch and a roll of rope I carry I have a reach of 20m. Still in a bog you could be 2KM from the nearest tree, so the usefulness is questionable for any kind of winch IMO...
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I got my bike stuck up to the top of the wheels in some thick silty mud and it took two of us an hour and a half to get it out. Each time we got it lifted, it just sucked back down. If we could have had a way of “keeping it under tension” while we got another bite, I’m sure we would have been out in a few minutes. I now carry 30 metres of thin dyneema rope and two sailing dinghy pulley blocks (to multiply the pull) with me if I take just one other rider out. Obviously, now I’m prepared, it’s never going to happen again
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This might help pulling it out/up some stuff

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What about using a long ratchet lorry stap as a winch. I've used these to move massive weights in the past.
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For glacier travel you learn to set up 2x, 3x, 5x, and/or 6x pulley systems for rescues. 6x leverage means a 100 lb. pull on the rope yields a 600 lb. pull on the working end (less friction losses, of course).

Materials are very lightweight, because you need to carry them on your back or attached to your harness. One rope, a few loops of lighter ropes to set up prussiks (one-way sliding knots which serve as ratchets), a couple of lightweight pulleys, couple of carabiners, and a few odd slings to set up an anchoring point.

My whole rescue kit, rope aside, weights about a pound. Add a 2000lb test rope and it might weigh another pound, maybe two. There are probably diagrams of such systems all over the web, available in .29 seconds by Google search.

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Someone has designed a system that fits BMW with single sided swing arm.
It’s basically a small rim that you attach to the left of the rear wheel. Dependent on how you put the rope you can winch both forward and backward.

I have AadmanZ’s solution on my enduro-bike and it works great, it’s always easier to drag a bike then to push it.
If you are stuck and have brought a friend then make him turn your front wheel (manual 2WD) it gives good leverage!

Turn front wheel:


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That’s it:
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Someone has designed a system that fits BMW with single sided swing arm.
It’s basically a small rim that you attach to the left of the rear wheel. Dependent on how you put the rope you can winch both forward and backward.

I have AadmanZ’s solution on my enduro-bike and it works great, it’s always easier to drag a bike then to push it.
If you are stuck and have brought a friend then make him turn your front wheel (manual 2WD) it gives good leverage!

Turn front wheel:


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That’s it:
But how does it work ?? Do you have some more pictures, a link ?

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It works similar to this http://www.austracks4wd.com.au/pdf/bush%20winch.pdf
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you can use a come-a-long ADVrider - View Single Post - New solo Adv Rider...didn't waste the adrenaline!!

or this ADVrider - View Single Post - winch on a motorcycle

I carry an ATV sysnthetic rope with a snatch block and two small d-rings.
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This might help pulling it out/up some stuff

I saw those at Ripley... £20 or something..

Another case of spending £20 when an old bit of rope would do the job just as well or probably better.

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I saw those at Ripley... £20 or something..

Another case of spending £20 when an old bit of rope would do the job just as well or probably better.

Spend your money on fuel, not bling !
I like bling
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Do you mean something like this:
Biltema Sverige
searchword:
"vinsch"
Type it in the blank square. There are about 10 different winches presented.

This is probably the only 12V that is small enough for a large bike (like the Ural):
Biltema Sverige
Manual in "Skandinavian" and Finnish - data is readable for or as are the split-views:
http://www.biltema.se/Archive/Docume.../15/15-360.pdf
If you plan to install a winch you do also need electrical power to drive it...
Alternator up-grading:
http://www.webstruktur.com/svea/board/artik/bilgen.html
http://www.webstruktur.com/svea/board/artik/mont_bilgen.html

I have longed for such item many times, just as a reverse would be really neat to have.
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Do you mean something like this:
Biltema Sverige
searchword:
"vinsch"
Type it in the blank square. There are about 10 different winches presented.

This is probably the only 12V that is small enough for a large bike (like the Ural):
Biltema Sverige
Manual in "Skandinavian" and Finnish - data is readable for or as are the split-views:
http://www.biltema.se/Archive/Docume.../15/15-360.pdf
If you plan to install a winch you do also need electrical power to drive it...
Alternator up-grading:
http://www.webstruktur.com/svea/board/artik/bilgen.html
http://www.webstruktur.com/svea/board/artik/mont_bilgen.html

I have longed for such item many times, just as a reverse would be really neat to have.
I wonder what the amp draw is on one of those !

I can imagine it draining your battery pretty quickly, even with the engine running ! And if you're stuck in mud or water, im guessing the engine will most likely NOT be running....
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