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Old 12 Sep 2007
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Much better and much cheaper.

In my opinoin of course.

LOOBMAN - manual chain lubrication system for all motorcycles with regular, O-Ring and X-Ring chains

I have one on my XT. It only oils when I want it to, doesnt make a mess, can run on any oil , easy to fit and only costs £20.

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I have a view on both. At the moment my Dads varadero1000 has a scottoiler on it and to be frank it is good. For the money you do have to do a bit of fiddling but once fiddled it works great but you have to keep an eye on the level of oil (ran out on ireland trip) and keep an eye on the chain as it wears but not as fast.

The loobman i bought and placed on my big brothers varadero 125. I have only used it a few times since placed on but it does work but takes time to fit and you have to have the bottle in easy excess for when you want old which can be a bugger. (scottoiler under seat or on number plate). The few problems i have had are remebering to use it on a trip, getting the oil to run the full length of tube, getting it to go out the plastic ends onto the chain.

All the problems of both oilers can be fixed it just takes time. On money wise the loobman wins hands down at £18 (ebay) it is cheap but at £70 + attachment (if you pay for it) is more expensive but you get more for your money and better control over the oiler.

For me it would have to be the scottoiler as you just start the bike and it goes you stop it stops. easy. but not as cheap!!!
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I had a Scottoiler for years, and also another device (CLS200u or something like that?) that had wires going to the battery, where it got a hunch that now the bike´s running its time to get to work.

Both require some time to fit into the bike, and some time to maintain them as well. And after a few months, sometimes even half a year or so, both broke down for whatever reason (there were several), but anyway the oiler was the most common place where I had to fix something on any bike. They just do not last, and I got fed up with both. They do work well when they do, though.

Now I got a Loobman, and it was easier to fit, requires you to remember to use it (ive got no problem with that as Im used to checking the condition on the chain) but on the other hand there isnt much that can go broke. The steelwire thats used to keep the oilpipe in the right position isnt very convincing, though..
Only had it for a few weeks now, but so far I dont feel like tearing it off the bike (like I sometimes did with the more tricky solutions!).. planning to put some chainsaw oil into the bottle instead of motor oil to maybe get less oil flying around the back of the bike. For me this system seems to be LOW-TECH enough, while others sadly werent.
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You can sometimes pick up used Scotties/Loobmans on the cheap on sites like www. ebay.com. I paid about 15 quid for my Scottoiler, if I remember correctly. I then went on to get the high capacity reservoir on the cheap, but never really needed to install it.
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Well, this thread has convinced me of the virtues of the Scottoiler! Just bought the Touring kit today, will try to have it fitted this weekend or next week.

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Good lad you wont regret it, a few points keep the re near the engine where its always WARM (Helps flow when its cold)

Make it so that from the Res it has to run uphill for a few inches, this gives a SMALL airlock when the bikes not moving, that way when you start up in the mornings it doesn't drip out right away mine starts to work at about 1/4 of a mile, by then the tires are warmed up and running and I can open her up.

Don't know if yo uever intend to off road, but when you install the long line, do it in smaller sections, that way if you have an off and puncture the line you only have to replace a small part of it.

Also when you connect it to the Manifold you can put the tube on your tounge with the bike running and it will GENTLY suck the tip, its a very quick way of checking its working (helpful for fault finding).

Just my observations from using it for the last 12,000 miles.
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(Not so) Great Scott!

My experiences with Scottoilers haven't been the most positive. I've used them on a couple of my bikes and had varying results.

I used one on a 2005 Ninja 636, and it kept the chain in quite good nick, but then I bought one for my DRZ, and just had problem after problem with it. I spent more time fettling and fixing than I ever would have spent lubing manually. And paid through the nose for the privelege.

I just rely on hand lubing (ooo-er) now, or more often non-lubing!

Everyone knows that orange chains work best anyway!

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i have a Scottoiler with lubetube on my TDM and a loobman on my XTZ
the dual nozzle on the loobman is better than the scott oiler one which seems to get clogged up
the loobman comes with a dual nozzle as standard, just the dual nozzle for the scottoiler costs more than the entire loobman inc postage
also the drip rate on the scotty is very difficult to setup correctly if you are riding in a mix of temperatures and altitudes
the loobman is easy to use, you just squeeze it whenever filling up with fuel (they recommend once every 100miles, obviously more if in bad weather)
note that it will drip oil even if stationary after the squeeze, so i mounted mine where i can reach behind me and squeeze the bottle as i ride away

i use scott oil in both the systems, yes the oil is expensive, but i bought a job lot of it a few years ago and still working my way thru it

with the loobman if you are going offroad and want to avoid the grinding paste you simple dont use it, with the scottyoiler you have to adjust it and in my experience its almost impossible to switch it off without disconnecting the vaccum hose

the loobman gets my vote
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