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Scott Oiler - consumption + what kind of oil

After 70,000 km on the road I´m fed up with hunting for sprockets and chains for our two Transalps.
So I´d installed a Scott Oiler.

two questions:
- how much oil does it consume? Just give me a rough hint.
- what kind of oil do you use? I thought of chainsaw-oil Should be available all over southamerica, since they are sawing down all the rainforrest:-) But I´m not shure if they use proper chainsaw oil.

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I travelled with a guy that had one on his TA and as far as I can remember he got from Scotland to Kerala on one bottle of oil (it look like it was approx 500ml).

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In the summer I use gear oil,in winter whatever engine oil I have lying about.Mine is the normal Scottoiler,no high capacity reservoir.I usually have set to about half way on the dial and it lasts about 350/400 miles.
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After 70,000 km on the road I´m fed up with hunting for sprockets and chains for our two Transalps.
So I´d installed a Scott Oiler.

two questions:
- how much oil does it consume? Just give me a rough hint.
- what kind of oil do you use? I thought of chainsaw-oil Should be available all over southamerica, since they are sawing down all the rainforrest:-) But I´m not shure if they use proper chainsaw oil.

greetings from Colombia

Panny

Hey Panny,

In my chainsaw I (and many others) will use any cheap vegetable oil to lube the chain.
In my Scotoiler I use a heavier oil so it does not disappear of the back of the chain before its done the job intended.

I guess it all depends on the abuse said chain is to get, depending on the type of weather and terrain E.G. sand and metal add a little oil = great grinding paste. Here in ole England, a steady drip at say one drip every 30 to 60 seconds on average. If you have a sealed chain would also be a factor one would have to examine.

I understand the principle of the oiler is to not only lubricate, but to aid removal of dirt and grit picked up enroute. More grit more oil. It also keeps the rust at bay in the wet and humidity.

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With out stating the obvious, the scottoiler website Scottoiler | Motorbike chain lube | Scottoiler fs 365

tells you the type of oil, the clue is in the temp guide then you can
look out for temp rang oil, or just go and buy Blue or Red
Blue Scottoil should be used in temperatures of 0-20°C. (32-68°F)
High Temp Scottoil is designed for use in warmer climates with ambient temperatures of 20-40°C.

Taken from web site
Using the example of an eSystem with 60ml capacity (approx. 2fl. Oz) operating at one drop per minute (there recommended flow rate) and riding at an average speed of 60mph

Distance travelled = 2647 miles
Cost of 60ml (2fl. Oz) of oil = ~ £0.83 or $1.19
Cost per mile = £0.0003 or $0.00045
Over a distance of 10,000 miles the running cost would stack up to £3.36 or $4.82!! Cheap at twice the price.

or instead of mucking about just pop down the Rd & buy the right oil from local dealership, as there oil has certain sticky property's
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It's probably worth you investing in their high capacity reservoir, which fits behind the number plate.

Personally I find an oiler-full lasts about 500 miles between top-ups, though less during the winter when I turn it up a bit and forever in the desert when I turn it off!
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thanx

Thanks a lot for sharing your experiences! Good and helpful answeres, except the one from Selous.

@Selous: you didn´t get it: this was about experience and practical solutions! Not about recitation of manufacture´s marketing tales and buying overpriced original stuff, which is anyway not available down here in the third world!

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I used the high capacity reservoir, fill it up and forget about it for 10,000 miles. In countries where you can't buy the fluid Scottoiler recommends using EP80 gear oil.
With a Scottoiler fitted I got 36,000 miles out of my chain and I think it only needed adjusting once.

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It's probably worth you investing in their high capacity reservoir, which fits behind the number plate.

Personally I find an oiler-full lasts about 500 miles between top-ups, though less during the winter when I turn it up a bit and forever in the desert when I turn it off!
Regarding the desert situation, what's the best way to keep the chain lubed then? One reason for having an auto lube system is surely to eliminate the need to carry cans of lube? So what's the best method?
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uneven lubrication of the chain

Meanwhile I´ve ridden a bit more than 1.000 kilometer with the scott oiler.
I´m absolutely not happy with the uneven lubrication. The outer side is oiled properly, but the inner side not. The o-rings on that side are totally dry.
No sufficent "capilar-effect" or whatever the word is, that the manufacturer uses.

What is your experience?

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Meanwhile I´ve ridden a bit more than 1.000 kilometer with the scott oiler.
I´m absolutely not happy with the uneven lubrication. The outer side is oiled properly, but the inner side not. The o-rings on that side are totally dry.
No sufficent "capilar-effect" or whatever the word is, that the manufacturer uses.

What is your experience?

Greetings from Ecuador

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I used to have the German chain oiler CLS-200 on my F650. The system was nice as it electronically adjusted for ambient temperature variation, i.e. change in viscosity. Still, I would not install any type of chain oiler again - too much hassle IMO.

For later chain-driven bikes, I ended up using Dupont Teflon multi-use lubrication which is not sticky or messy.

That's why I love shaft drive...
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Thanks a lot for sharing your experiences! Good and helpful answeres, except the one from Selous.

@Selous: you didn´t get it: this was about experience and practical solutions! Not about recitation of manufacture´s marketing tales and buying overpriced original stuff, which is anyway not available down here in the third world!

Greetings from Colombia Panny
I did get it, seems most of the ppl on here are telling you 500+ miles on 500 mil ave size of container, you can turn it down as well, the point I was making, as you say you just fitted a scottoiler you get 1ltr with it, so you would be good for 1000 miles other than dessert when turn it off as, Im sure I wont have to tell you the obvious, what happens
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I used to have the German chain oiler CLS-200 on my F650. The system was nice as it electronically adjusted for ambient temperature variation, i.e. change in viscosity. Still, I would not install any type of chain oiler again - too much hassle IMO.

For later chain-driven bikes, I ended up using Dupont Teflon multi-use lubrication which is not sticky or messy.

That's why I love shaft drive...
my last bike had duel nozzles? must be for certain bikes? or is that a added item?
may be you need to look at the manual in relation to where you have placed the nozzle
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Regarding the desert situation, what's the best way to keep the chain lubed then? One reason for having an auto lube system is surely to eliminate the need to carry cans of lube? So what's the best method?
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Mate turn it off keep the chain dry it works like a grinding paste, once off the dessert, have a good cheek of the chain then I would clean & lightly oil. remember to turn on the oiler after
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Not sure 500 miles per 500ml is right? That would mean my last trip I would have used 27 LITRES of chain lube :0
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