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jenna 5 May 2006 10:27

moose is not safe at high speed for a host of reasons the main being that it is not a soft foam but a hard foam, when used it becomes compressed and thats fine if you compress it equally all round the wheel, but if you make dents in it, say by dropping into a pot hole it has the effect of crumbling the foam at that point and leaving the innertube with a flat spot. This is fine off-road as you wont notice it over rough ground but on tarmac its like riding on a flat tire. Most the raid or enduro riders are now using 'tyreballs' (from SRC racing i think) as they tend to stay soft and can expand to cope if one is damaged.

http://www.tireballs.com/

ChrisC 8 Jun 2006 00:26

The Answer
 
Hi
try Ultraseal, this product is a sealant and conditioner, proven to work in tests and tested in excess of 150mph!!!
It does work on: push bikes, mo' bikes, cars, 4x4's, trucks, HGV's etc - I have tried it and know from experience.
Will seal punctures that could/would result in 'off's', in the event of a major hole or catastrophic damage it will allow a controlled deflation of the tyre, meaning you can stop before you would come off the bike.

Any questions leave a message or email me
Regards
Chris

XT GIRL 8 Jan 2008 08:07

Bumping this because...
 
I'm wondering if anyone has (since this thread was started) had any definitive experience with tire balls?

Tirehttp://www.dirtbikestore.com/acatalog/Tire_Balls.html

I have cold sweats thinking of having to change tyres on my own thru Africa... I've been practising but is just so DAMN hard!

I think I'd rather break my toe, than change a tyre.

If anyone can just please invent UNBREAKABLE tyres, so that I can sleep better at night.

That would be nice.

Martynbiker 8 Jan 2008 08:54

I have posted this many times too......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisC (Post 103619)
Hi
try Ultraseal, this product is a sealant and conditioner, proven to work in tests and tested in excess of 150mph!!!
It does work on: push bikes, mo' bikes, cars, 4x4's, trucks, HGV's etc - I have tried it and know from experience.
Will seal punctures that could/would result in 'off's', in the event of a major hole or catastrophic damage it will allow a controlled deflation of the tyre, meaning you can stop before you would come off the bike.

Any questions leave a message or email me
Regards
Chris

as an echo to Chris..

ULTRASEAL!:thumbup1:

XT GIRL 20 Jan 2008 09:28

Tire Balls...
 
Thanks Martyn- but it doesn't really answer my question...

Ultraseal seems ok - but seems like an 'emergency' solution - a short time help, avoiding you coming off due to a puncture? You still have to stop more or less asap, and fix the tyre??


Tire balls seems like we can ride on happily for infinity(with puncture) , without seriously affecting riding.... i.e. we don't have to stop at all to fix the tyre until we are somewhere back in civilization... to simply replace the punctured ball?

mattcbf600 20 Jan 2008 09:53

I've been thinking about this and have seen the plug kits used to great success whilst on the road, the only thing that lets people down is using the C02 canisters to re-inflate the tyre - you need about three and because they're being pushed on by hand you quite often lose a lot of the air - and they go ice cold in the hand...

I'm wondering if there's a controlled way of putting these canisters air into the tyre?

m

Martynbiker 20 Jan 2008 10:30

The answer to your Prayers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdave (Post 19849)
Its not the flat tyre & having to change it that worries me it the bike going down due to getting a flat that scares me & my wife .Its 10 months since we came off on the auto barn in Germany & MY WIFES leg is still in plaster.
Since my return home we have brought the new 300c Chrysler & it comes with sensors that warn you that you have a flat it dosnt stop you getting one but if i had of had 3 seconds more warning i could of got the bike to a stop rather than comming off at 60kmph.
If my car comes standard with it why cant my bike i note you can install them for $500 on your car what about bikes.


ULTRASEAL

Ultraseal Tire Sealant


Martynbiker 20 Jan 2008 10:32

nope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by impasto (Post 169581)
Thanks Martyn- but it doesn't really answer my question...

Ultraseal seems ok - but seems like an 'emergency' solution - a short time help, avoiding you coming off due to a puncture? You still have to stop more or less asap, and fix the tyre??

ultraseal lasts the life of the tyre! if you see the nail, pull it out, then RIDE! thorns, splinters, etc, stayin.. cause no harm, never had a puncture in last 15 years! and have changed tyres on bikes with MANY nails stickin through!

Ultraseal Tire Sealant

XT GIRL 22 Jan 2008 01:13

Doh!
 
:oops2:



Ok Martynbiker - my sincerest apologies!

Ofcourse, had I done a bit of research BEFORE shooting my mouth off, I wouldn't have advertised my ignorance quite so eloquently!


I guess it just sounds nicer when you say it:

ULTRASEAL

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

I get it. I promise. And ULTRASEAL it will be for us!

We will buy some ULTRASEAL and use ULTRASEAL since it is cleary the answer to our prayers.

Thanks.


PS: If you see two girls, riding through Africa, with not a CARE IN THE WORLD, because they don't have to change tyres... you can rest assured, its because we are using ULTRASEAL.


:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

desert dweller 5 Mar 2008 22:07

tyrepliers.com.au
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Cone of Silence (Post 19853)
Righto I'm learning here. Big trip coming up and I'm planningon using tubeless tyres but you guys are suggesting that taking a spare tube is a good thing just in case there's a gash the size of the Khyber Pass in the wall , right??

Is it just a case of taking the tyre off, putting the tube in, putting ther tyre back on and pumping it up?

What about wheel balancing?

check out tyrepliers.com.au
product works well to get tubeless tyres off rim. i have an r11gs. have used the kit a couple of times and the patching / plugging stuff they give you is very comprehensive, including a small hand pump and CO2 canisters.
later,
andy

oh yeah who cares about balancing?

desert dweller 13 Mar 2008 20:09

method for seating a tubeless tyre on a rim without compressor
 
fairly simple.

get the tyre mounted, splash a little petrol - which most of us carry - inside the tyre, enough to wet the inside of the bead for say 2/3 of the circumference, but not enough to pool. use your head...

make a little trail of petrol up across the outside of the tyre. this will be the wick.

take a piece of rolled paper, light the end and touch it to the petrol on the outside of the tyre.

burny, burny, whoof! your tyre is seated on the rim and probably about half-inflated.

taught to me by Ariel Rodriguez, mechanic in Mendoza, Argentina. for a demo, check:

YouTube - Seating a tubeless tyre on a rim without compressor.

cheers
andy

oldbmw 13 Mar 2008 23:28

I have been riding/driving since 1961. During that time I have twice had problems with tyre failing to seal to the rims properly. Both times were the only two times I had aluminium rims.
Now this second time with my bmw 1985 R80.. I am about ready to install a tube in the front wheel because I cannot get the front tyre airtight. Would the goo from Halfords or Ultraseal help?

My last actual puncture on a bike ( my only one) was in 1961 on a tiger cub...:)

Rebaseonu 13 Mar 2008 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by desert dweller (Post 179590)

:thumbup1:

However, right there is another video about how not to do it:

YouTube - tyre fitting gone wrong

Walkabout 14 Mar 2008 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldbmw (Post 179635)
I have been riding/driving since 1961. During that time I have twice had problems with tyre failing to seal to the rims properly. Both times were the only two times I had aluminium rims.
Now this second time with my bmw 1985 R80.. I am about ready to install a tube in the front wheel because I cannot get the front tyre airtight. Would the goo from Halfords or Ultraseal help?

My last actual puncture on a bike ( my only one) was in 1961 on a tiger cub...:)

Hi OldBMW,
I've never used this stuff, but it certainly comes highly recommended by a wide range of people. So, following martynbikers' link, here is the Ultraseal answer about use in tubes (qualified to some extent but an answer nevertheless):-

Frequently Asked Questions

Cheers,

oldbmw 14 Mar 2008 23:29

Thanks walkabout


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