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Oil Drain Valve

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Anyone have any experience with 'Oil Drain Valves' from OTR.de

OFF-THE-ROAD | Oil drain valve, Yamaha | buy online

It makes sense and would make life a bit easier but would like to know whether they are robust enough, etc. I'll have a sump guard on for sure.

Any thoughts would be great, thanks
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Another gadget aimed to get you to spend $$$ IMO

In theory I can see how this gadget might intersest some folk but I don't see it really helping that much as the most amount of time for anyone who is regularly doing oil changes is removing bash plate and oilfilter, not the sump plug. As for creating less mess we use a PET bottle cut in half as the funnel. Works a charm and are available anywhere and everywhere keeps from getting too messy

The disadvantages I see are:
1) Will the valve provide equivalent NM torque
2) Is the valve proven at high operating temperatures
3) The valve has a limitation; the speed to empty all the engin oil as it is more restrictive in diametre
4) Metal shards wont be drained using the valve and may even cause the valve to block failing to drain oil and the metal shards. IMHO this is the biggest issue.
5) The value sticks out below the oil sump making it more suseptible to damage.

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It's a nice idea but like said, just a gadget for people with too much money and spare time.

How bolts does it take to remove a sump guard ? 4-5 ?? Hardly an effort.

With the XT's and 4000-6000 mile oil changes, for example, thats only 2 changes in a whole cape-cairo trip.

Also, it adds something else to go wrong or leak ! I wouldnt trust it !

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4) Metal shards wont be drained using the valve and may even cause the valve to block failing to drain oil and the metal shards. IMHO this is the biggest issue.

Good point... well presented!

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It's a nice idea but like said, just a gadget for people with too much money and spare time.
I have got too much money and sat at my Laptop bored out of my head ordering shite off t'internet..!

How bolts does it take to remove a sump guard ? 4-5 ?? Hardly an effort.
It is a pain in the arse removing the sump guard just to change the oil, a simple 'Plug in and Flow out' device would be easier and a 5 minute job not a 30 minuter unbolting shit off the bike!

With the XT's and 4000-6000 mile oil changes, for example, thats only 2 changes in a whole cape-cairo trip.
I did UK to Cape Town and was changing the oil a lot more than recommended due to the heat, mileage, workload and sometimes the mud they called quality oil.

It was just an idea and I thank you both for your help. You both convinced me with the metal shards and something else to go wrong, for if it fails dramatically and I don't noticed then I'm in a world of POO!! I'll stick to the magnetic plug!

Unless there's anyone out there that uses one..?
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Although, if you've got the money to burn I'm more than happy for you to be test dummy..

I do like the concept and the idea.

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In for a penny... in for a pound!

Just ordered one so we shall see what it's like and I'll post the results. Easy come, easy go as they say.
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In for a penny... in for a pound!

Just ordered one so we shall see what it's like and I'll post the results. Easy come, easy go as they say.
Reading the spec on properly, it might not be as bad as I first assumed. I suppose it has a safety cap so even in the valve failed, you're not going to get oil dumped all over the garage floor or your back wheel.

Im interested to see how you get on although I feel you may still need to remove your sump guard to attach the hose unless you drill out yoru sump plug. Then again, you could drill it out for the stock plug too.

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Don't like valves that need tools to get the gear out. The ball would still create some blockage.

I've used this for a few years now and love it. Spring loaded ball valve. Drill a hole in your bashplate, put a bucket under it, and you're away with fresh oil in 20min.

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