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Tubeless tire (tyre) refitting
OK, I'm now fairly good at removing tubeless tires using the tyrepliers kit. I seem to have failed in refitting it. The problem is making the bead reseat on the rim using a small 12v compressor. I've tried using a strap as a tourniquet but eventually it broke and it didn't work anyway. I tried the old ether trick but it didn't seem to "explode" fast enough. Burnt the hair off my arm, though. The idea is to get sufficiently proficient at tire replacements in the bush and without using a tube or service station (large) compressor. Any suggestions?
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The idea is to get sufficiently proficient at tire replacements in the bush and without using a tube or service station (large) compressor. Any suggestions?
Carrry a tube! A tyre can split - like a knife cut, you cannot 'patch' it well enough .. but you can put a Tee shirt, bit of plastic over the cut (inside the tyre, ensure teh edges are smooth where teh tube contacts this extra reinforcing) and then put a tube in the tyre and ride out. The tube will also 'reseat' a tyre ... no fast high volume required. It is a fail safe measure to carry a tube with tubless tyres.
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Helge Pederson (not sure if i spelt that right) on his R1150GS DVD uses those little compressed air cylinders you get with puncture repair kits to reset the bead. Then uses a 12v air compressor to finish. Seems to work pretty well though not tried it myself.

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Slime your tubeless tyres - will sort out 95% of punctures - and carry a tubeless pucture kit just in case - you should never need take the tyre off to fix a puncture
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OK, I'm now fairly good at removing tubeless tires using the tyrepliers kit. I seem to have failed in refitting it. The problem is making the bead reseat on the rim using a small 12v compressor. ?
Lubricant is the only way. You can use soap, liquid or solid. Shampoo, shower gel etc. DON'T use oil/grease. The soaps will eventually dry out and let the tyre "stick" to the rim. Oils won't.

Then just pump as much as you can.
I will assume the wheel is off the bike... Bounce the wheel at the point the bead is not seated to help it to pop out.

Should work.

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Use a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tyre. A friend seated a Tourance on to a tubeless GS rim using just a 12v mini compressor.
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Slime your tubeless tyres - will sort out 95% of punctures - and carry a tubeless pucture kit just in case - you should never need take the tyre off to fix a puncture
It's very effective. Chances are that you'll only take the tyre off when the TWIs are out.

That said, using a tube (as an emergency get you to the next town kind of measure) will definitely take care of your immediate needs
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I have a 1985 bmw rt.. it has tubless tyres on aloy rims, but valves I have not seen before, metal. what is needed to remove them to make way for a tube ?
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Are they metal on a rubber base? I dare say they're the same as the valves on my R65 alloys, they just plug into the rim, so to fit a tube, just unplug the valve. I think the hole will be fairly large though, perhaps use an old piece of tube rubber to protect the tube from tearing around the valve.
Carrying a tube is also handy if you happen to buckle the alloy rims like i did in Turkmenistan. The air was leaking past the tubeless rim, so i had to install a tube until i could get the rim straightened.
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I have a 1985 bmw rt.. it has tubless tyres on aloy rims, but valves I have not seen before, metal. what is needed to remove them to make way for a tube ?
To confirm - They're very simple - they just unscrew easily, otherwise as noted above.
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Also handy to carry spare tubeless valve - assuming you will be running tubeless tyres and only carrying the tube as a back-up measure - I had the metal and ru bits of the valve part company at 100+ mph in Aus, very interesting...
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