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bikerfromsark 21 Jun 2007 19:40

The best tool ever!!!! Bead breaker.
 
Hey One and All
I was lent a tool by an Australian friend who gave it to me to help remove my tyres, and WOW it makes life easy. I did it in half the time I normaly take and with out any cuts, blood blisters, sweating or even swearing! I have found the link to where they are from, unfortunatly they as far as I can see only sell in Australia, But I am sure if would be possable to get them to post to Europe etc. They are well made and strong. The extra weight I find to be not a problem compaired to how easy it is to break the bead. It also can be used to keep the beads in the well of the rim when refitting the tyre.

Tyrepliers Bead Breakers

Hope this helps someone.

BikerfromSark

mollydog 22 Jun 2007 05:36

It's technique, not technical.

robin_goode 22 Jun 2007 13:54

looks good g. its not the same one as i bought yesterday. mines about 30cm's long. and is made of two parts. with a swivel mechanism on the base where the lever gets inserted. you insert the first piece then pull the aditional lever back opening up the bead. im not sure how easy it will be to get the lever in there in the first place however. bit of grease and sweat and blood i can imagine. will let you know how it goes this weekend. (if i get a flat that is!). you going to order that one for africa?

ciao hombre.
r

AliBaba 22 Jun 2007 16:39

With some practice it’s not to hard to break the bead without assistance from other people or a bead braker.

The hard way:
http://www.actiontouring.com/pic/spak.jpg
This actually works (even on oilheads with huge tires). The trick is to press the metal-piece as close as possible to the rim.

On the pic this is done with a 20cm (8 inch) tire lever and a 13/19mm socket (from original toolkit). The rim is a tubeless R80GS rim.

It’s possible to use only one tire lever on the rest of the process but I prefer two. Some people find a small wise grip suitable (attached to the rim) handy when they should get the tire back on.

The easy way:
http://www.actiontouring.com/pic/st1.jpg

It’s smart to secure the centerstand before you do this. It is easier if you have alu-panniers, remove the one on the left side and place it underneath the one at the right side.

Stand on the wheel and pull the bike toward you, make sure the stand is as close to rim as possible:
This method could also be modified to work by using a sidestand, I had to do this on my Honda a few times.

Finished:
http://www.actiontouring.com/pic/st2.jpg

Other options:
If you have a friend with another bike it might be easier to use his bike. If you have a car available then place a jack under the car (as if you where changing tires) and put your wheel underneath the jack.

AndyT 22 Jun 2007 19:01

I use a 6" C-clamp. Works for me.

AliBaba 22 Jun 2007 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyT (Post 140462)
I use a 6" C-clamp. Works for me.

As I see it the problem with C-clamps or bead bakers is that you have to carry it with you .

mollydog 22 Jun 2007 23:01

Anyone use Ride-On or SLIME?

AliBaba 23 Jun 2007 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 140491)
Using the side stand/center stand method is tough in sand or mud and doing it solo could present some challenges. Actually, I've never done this method solo.

IMHO it’s no problem to do the center stand method solo. I have used it in light mud and sand and actually I find it a bit easier when the ground is soft because you can burry the tire a bit so the bike will stay more upright.
If it is really hot I prefer this way compared to “the hard way”. With full touring setup (43 litres of petrol, 15 litres of water ++) I guess my bike weighs about 270 kg. But you are not supposed to carry it


Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 140491)
Some guys like to break the bead with the tire still mounted on the bike, whilst bike is laid on it's side. (bit tough on paint!) Another bike's side stand is used or some good technique doing the boot dance on the tire. Then they pull out the tube where the puncture is and patch it.

I've never done a flat repair this way.

I've seen the ISDE guys break a bead in 15 seconds just using their feet. Very impressive and quite a violent act. But possible if you know how. Better have good boots. BTW, they always remove wheel from bike first.

I don’t know which type of rims the ISDE-guys use but on my HPN it’s no problem to break the bead in few seconds. Last Monday I guess I used 15 seconds (on each side) with light shoes.

BMW tubeless rims (on the pics above) are worse, at least two minutes (the hard way), or five minutes with the center stand method. I would say it’s impossible to break the bead with boots, at least for me. On the other hand it’s much safer when you get a puncture.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 140491)
A good way to break the bead on a stubborn tire is to just keep riding on the flat. On pavement it should break once it gets hot. It will most likely roach your tube in the process but it does make life easier...but more expensive. We would never do this in Mexico....tubes are like GOLD there. (and other places too, I'm sure)

Methods for breaking the bead that put your tube in risk are out of the question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 140491)
My long term plan is to seal my wheels using truck bed liner goop and a special epoxy. The spoke nipples must all be sealed air tight. If done correctly
it can make life a bit easier. You still run your tube but when you get a puncture you can (theoretically!!) simply use a tire plug as you would with a
tubeless tire, air up with CO2's, and be on your way. Sounds like it would be worth a try. (You must install a 2nd tubeless type valve in order to air up...and a hand pump would probably NOT work to seat the bead) What happens when you pick up a nail is you lose air much more slowly...this is safer on the highway. Better if carry a mini compressor.


It might be possible to build your own tubeless rims with epoxy and other goop but I don’t see the point. It’s other ways to make them run tubeless, if you prefer a tubeless setup.
I have used tubeless rims for 250kkms, now I’m using ordinary rims most of the time.

Personally I find seating the bead harder then breaking it (on tubeless rims). Maybe I should buy a quality pump some day…

bikerfromsark 24 Jun 2007 12:25

Hey Robin
Yer I plan to take 'mine' to africa (its now been donated to my trip as I like it so much!). It would be good to see a pic of yours to see how it works. However I like the look of the box spanner approach used on the BMW's wheel. I will give that a try next time. I have cut down the stud thread to as long as I need to save on weight and space. I don't use lubicant simply becuase I don't want to have to carry it with me and waste water much better spent drinking, not such an issue here in Europe at the mo!

George

bikerfromsark 24 Jun 2007 12:32

One last question...
Can some one please describe how they use the stand to break the bead when on their own. I prop my bike with a bit of tube. But even with a pannier can see how it can pivert enough to break the bead with out coming off the surport.

Cheers George

mollydog 25 Jun 2007 04:01

NOt a problem if you know how. :thumbup1:

*Touring Ted* 25 Jun 2007 23:05

Im thinking of buying such a device. You could easily make a bracket to hold it on the outside of your panniers or subframe.

Dodger 26 Jun 2007 00:43

A piece of 2 or 21/2 inch angle iron 4 inches long and a hammer will get just about any tyre bead off the rim [car truck tractor bike].
However if your aim is bad and you worry about dinging the rim ,then use the angle iron pressed up close to the rim and a long lever of 2x4 as Patrick describes to push down on the tyre -as you push down ,tap the angle iron against the rim so that it enters the gap between the tyre and the rim edge and thereby prevents the tyre from springing back .
There is a bit of a knack to it but it never fails .

I like the look of the bead breaker shown above but it is a bit heavy ,however you could use it on a wheel still mounted on the bike to do a fast repair .

I have never found C clamps to be any good as they always seem to slip away from the bead .

I imagine that most travellers here are doing a lot of travelling and wearing their tyres out fast ,so the rubber should be still newish and pliable .
Usually you can get them off the bead by stamping on them .

*Touring Ted* 26 Jun 2007 01:41

By the way.

I emailed the company in Aus and they have a UK distributer. Im waiting to here back from the UK guys.

ill post up the details if i remember ! :rolleyes2:

Lone Rider 26 Jun 2007 01:50

I personally believe that carrying a special tool just to break the bead on a tire is......nuts.
I'd have one if changing many tires professionally, but this makes no sense to me when traveling, none, nada, zippo...:)

Think....


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