Laptop choice
 

Like many people I want to access the internet whilst on the road (blogs, e mails, etc) Can anyone recommend a small, robust laptop (oh, and cheap too!)

Just use internet cafes, cheap and plenty about. Plus saves lugging around all that extra weight, carrying adapters etc. The only place I found few internet cafes was N America as its mostly wi-fi however there are places if you look. 3rd world countries have shed-loads of internet cafes and are dirt cheap.

Eee PCs
 

I am a big fan of the ASUS Eee PC range. They are really small and light.

I took 701 model with a cigarette adapter to charge it on the road on a recent trip. It went in the tank bag with all the other electrical items. Maybe a bigger battery or second would help too.

You can get quite a few diff models too. All pretty cheap.

What you are looking for is called a "Netbook" not a notebook or laptop. they are smaller and not as full featured as the other two.

Cheers

Laptop choice
 

+1 for the Eee Pc. We've bought the Eee PC 1000 HE after much research. It would seem to be the benchmark at the moment; only 10 inches wide, with an almost standard sized key board and a real world 10 hour battery life. Apparent works well with Windows 7 if that's your cup of tea.

Just incase you're wondering the other we were considering was the Samsung NC-10.

I know people talk about using internet cafes but we want the freedom to carry additional software (maps etc), and carry our photos.

Don't forget you can always get a small portable USB hard drive to back up photos to and then burn to dvd & send home or have software on etc. All your important documents should be scanned and emailed to your own Hotmail (or whatever) a/c.

That's a very good point about having the scanned docs on your hotmail, gmail or some sort of web accessible resource.

On the USB drive note, I copied all my photos to a nice new 500gb USB Hard Disk. Unfortunately it failed half way through the trip. Luckily I am a paranoid type and didn't delete them from the cards.

I say do all three. Upload at least the important docs, copy photos to an external drive and carry lots of memory cards.

Everyone draws the line somewhere. I have no GPS, but I carry a netbook and will no longer leave home without it. I journal, back photos, compose, do paperwork of various sorts which should have been completed before I left home, store documents and scans.....

Yeah, I could do all this in internet cafes and photo shops. But I like doing it over dinner, a beer, or in my lodging. I like sharing photos full-sized with people I meet. And lots of places have wi-fi--not just North America. I find wireless access far more convenient than internet cafes, even at their best and most plentiful.

I use a slightly-antiquated EEE PC (i.e., a year and a half old). I have no tolerance for Windows, so mine has Linux. That means no viruses, and no hard drive either--it functions fine on a pure solid state drive, which means no moving parts to foul up as I bounce from tope to tope and slosh through rough tracks here and there. These things now cost under US$200, which is less than half the cost of the GPS I left at home. Mine weighs an even kilogram, just like a good book.

Hope that helps.

Mark

+1 for the EEEPC range, I'm now using a 1005 HA, which is fantastic and running very well on Windows 7. It's got 160gb of hard-drive, and ASUS have cleverly put the system back up ON the hard-drive so if everything goes wrong you just hold F9 down as you boot the computer and it will do a factory reset.

The hard-drive is partitioned into C and D, the best thing is to store all your data on D, leaving C for Windows and your installed programs. Factory reset only affects the C drive, so this way you can get your computing back from a catastrophe in about 30 minutes.

Another option worth considering is something like Portable Apps Suite. The idea is that you can put all the programs you need on a portable drive like a USB memory stick or SD card, plug that into ANY windows computer and you can use those programs directly from the memory stick with no installation at all.

With my EEEPC I've gone one stage further, partioned my hard-drive into C, D and E. Windows is on C, all the data is on D, and Portable Apps on E. Touch wood if I ever factory reset, I'll be up and running again in about five minutes.

Nice work Alexlebrit. :thumbup1:

Just to throw something else in there. I use a MSI Wind U100 and it's been great so far. It's a bit bigger and better featured than most EEEPCs, since I like to have at least a 12" screen for basic image editing.

I'm also not a fan of solid state drives, granted they have no moving parts, but most laptop harddisks are pretty tough and once they are in parking position (meaning the computer is turned off) there's nothing moving in there as well. So as long as you don't leave your computer running while you bounce over african streets you should be fine with both.

Of course solid state drives are still a bit harder to break but in comparision they are pretty expensive (measured by what you pay for the acutal GB) and still very small compared to even cheapish hard disks.

On my Wind i have around 20 Gigs of Music, a couple of Videos, around 12 Gigs of whatever and either a full fledged Linux or Windows XP.

EEEPCs who can do that raise your hands now please.

Obliviously both concepts have their pro and cons and my next trip will be without a netbook and with one of these:

http://www.preisbewertung.de/wp-cont...nokia-n800.jpg

See ya!
buebo

You can get touch screen kits for the Eee PCs quite cheaply which work really well (would better if the screen swivelled like a tablet) for GPS / Sat Nav type activities.

Bubeo you are right about hard drives being cheaper per Gb but I think the robustness of the SSD is worth it. My Western Digital USB hard drive failed mid trip, it was new before the trip and it lived in a neoprene stubby holder while in transit. I think my was bad luck but it shows what can happen.

The Eee PC 10 or 11 series have hard drives 160Gb and up. The problem is once you get a bigger hard drive or screen you want to do more with it and then you want it to do it faster, then the battery runs out to quickly. All this means the Netbook gets bigger and more expensive. This then starts to blur the line between a Netbook and a Notebook.

All depends on what you want it to do. For me it was email, a bit of web surfing, simple photo stuff and blog / journal. The little 701SD Eee was small and light as markharf said like a book.

Horses for courses.

If it's only for travelling (emails, blog, etc), I'd say seriously don't bother! The cost, the weight, the worries about having it stolen or breaking it on bad roads are not worth it. Plus, with a laptop you are more likely to get stuck in your room instead of going out and meeting people, or getting some well needed sleep. I have been on the road for almost 3 months now from Germany to Nepal, and in terms of pure travelling I was glad not to have taken a laptop.

Having said that, recently some important issues have come up with my company and I needed to start working again whilst on the trip, so I bought a laptop on the trip. If it werent for work, I wouldn't have, but currently there's no choice. I shopped around (in India) for various netbooks, and if you ask me they're all pretty much the same. No matter what company, they all come with nearly identical specs and nearly identical price tags, so it's hard to recommend one. The EEE PCs score with more robust, but smaller solid state hard drives, the new BenQ Joybooks are equipped to take UMTS/HDSPA modems (rather than a USB solution) and the Samsung N120/N128/N130 etc range comes with a nearly full-sized (97%) keyboard. Apart from that they're all the same. In the end I went with the Samsung because of it's keyboard: I can touch type without making adjustments at full speed, which is worth a lot when doing work (programming). If you don't have specific needs, probably anything will do, it's hard to go wrong - competition has made them all alike.

go for a netbook. not notebook or laptop as mentioned above.
i have two asus eeepc 900. one is eee 900a and other eee 900ha which are less then a kilo weight and really small. the 900a is with 4gb solid drive and i put additional 8gb ssd. as it has solid drive there is no need to care about vibrations. however, it is running on linux and you cant install mapsource, nokia pc suite, etc on linux. i have installed windows xp on the 900a, however, it really slowed down and had lag while opening programs and editing (any idea how to sort it out by the way??). i took the 900a to morocco and have not any problem with it.

then i bough 900ha which has 160gb hard disc drive and running on windows xp. no lag or what so ever. quite nice and small gadget.

about using internet abroad: i dont trust internet cafes as they may have spy programs. using external hhd or memorystick in internet cafes might be end up with virus effection. and i always carry 2 8gb memory sticks to back up my photos and scan of my documents. i also back up my documents to my gmail account.

i also have nokia e90 communicator. it has wifi and good for checking e-mails and skype. however too small and slow for blogs, building webpage, etc.

almost all the netbooks have same hardware configuration and uses intel atom n270 or n280. so go for cheaper and lighter one.

The EEE PC T91 looks like a very good solution for anyone who wants a dedicated travelling computer. A while back I posted about drawing up a list of ideal features and it's almost as if they read it (maybe they did?).


Swivelling touch screen, 16gb solid state drive, wifi, bluetooth, 3G+ modem, GPS (oh and a TV tuner,if you really wanted it). All in less than a kilo.

But it is of course, more expensive than a normal netbook, although no doubt less expensive than buying all the gadgets seperately. Then again, eggs in one basket.

PS. Bubeo, my EEEPC is raising its hand.

I like it Alexlebrit, I like it a lot.

I think I was talking to you in that thread...or another with the same topic.

I am off to check how much those T91s are :thumbup1:

I'll bite. :taz:

Which one is it?

Any of the 10 or 11 series Eee PCs :innocent:

I have a samsung nc10. It has a hard drive disc rather than SSD but battery life is very good. With wireless on you can get 6 hours; turn it off and you can get even more.

I bought one of these last year in the USA - Dell Mini 9 - it cost $299 including Windows XP installed:

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...end2009350.jpg

As others have recommended, it has an SSD drive (rather than spinning hard disk) therefore no moving parts to potentially get damaged. It comes with 8GB installed but you can expand that with the SD slot on the side - ideally you can back up your photos/music etc to additional SD cards as required - same goes for Garmin mapsource maps etc.

The main thing that appealed to me was the size of this machine - it is about half the size of my Macbook, and even fits in my Camelbak Blowfish bag no problem - yet the keyboard is still big enough to type on (which is fundamental compared to blackberry/iphone type devices), and it also comes with Dell's own version of Skype for video/audio calling over the internet, and as it runs Windows, you can even install Skype itself of course... it also seems very well screwed together for a 'budget' machine - moreso than the EEEPCs I compared it to at the time.

I can appreciate Sirakor's concern about spending too much time nerding online rather than experiencing your surroundings... but conversely there are times where having you own (instant) access to Google etc could prove invaluable, especially if traveling alone? - It certainly made my last trip easier on a number of occasions. I'd say as long as you have the discipline to use the on/off switch, just treat it as another tool in your arsenal?

J xxx

1005HA, 160gb hard-drive, so space for everything, just the same as yours.

Right, so no arguing about the whole hard disk vs. SSD issue :thumbup1:

Nice machine by the way! :D

I just picked up the 1000HE and have mapsource, smellybikers maps as well as tracks 4 africa already loaded. Also have a 500GB portable hard drive for all the files. I love this little guy.

What about an Apple ITouch.

iPod touch - Apple Store (U.S.)

There's no doubt that typing would be a pain. But you could store and read pdf files. Check and respond to email. Surf the internet. Carry ebooks to read and use it to play games/music. And it fits in your pocket. I was told you can also use Skype for audio calling over the internet with one.

daryl

Funny you mention the itouch/iphone - nearly everyone on the Heroes-Legend rally had one of these and was beavering away on it night after night!

By all accounts it is a fantastic device, other than the limited typing options as you suggest... so fine for everything except updating blog pages perhaps?

The word on the street is that Apple will enter the 'netbook' market with a gadget that uses similar architecture to the iphone (rather than a full-on OSX Macbook), but with a proper keyboard and decent sized screen - now that is going to be worth waiting for!

xxx

I just got my Itouch. Typing is indeed a pain. I agree that using it to update a blog would be painful if down right impossible. But I can see the advantage of having both. I have traveled myself for work where I was forced to carry a laptop. I hated it. I would only use it when I was out of sight from the rest of the world. I didn't want to advertise that I was carrying one.

Daryl

Typed with an Apple Itouch.

I guess I need to eat some crow here. My EEEPC went belly-up after a year of hard use (motorcycling on and off road, backpacking when not motorcycling). First it started corrupting files, rendering parts unreadable; then it started doing weird things while I was backing stuff up (like copying folders but leaving out most of the contents, so that I thought stuff had been fully backed up when in fact it had not). Finally, some of the keys stopped recording keystrokes: no letter "i" or "enter" key, for example.

I was in Panama, far from the nearest known repair shop or restore CD, so I shipped it home and bought a Windows Aspire One, one of the few English language/American keyboard netbooks I could find. It's more full-featured, but Windows is a pain in the butt, and setting it up for basic computing tasks is ridiculously awkward for this confirmed Mac/Linux user. It's also much larger, which makes for easier keyboarding and more screen acreage, but it's correspondingly harder to pack. And I've now got all sorts of added nonsense to deal with, like anti-virus, purchasing MS Word when my trial runs out, etc. etc. etc.

So....I'm no longer quite so gleeful about the EEEPC with its flash drive. It was great while it lasted, but a year is a bit scant for a lifespan, and it cost me a lot of irritation (and a fair bit of money) when it went down. Not to say, of course, that the Aspire One will necessarily do any better.
Hope this helps.

Mark

A Linux guy buying MS Word?! Why not just download OpenOffice for free?

Why don't you just put Linux on that Laptop as well? You know it doesn't have to be preinstalled, do you? :innocent:

Seriously it's supposed to work and you can always get back to windows if you have to. If you don't have the bandwith, the Ubuntu guys used to send of CDs (yes, pressed cds) for free. Might be something to check out...

Yeh, yeh, yeh. I can do lots of stuff....but I'm in Colombia sitting downstream from a fan sweating buckets, not somewhere nice and comfy and relaxed. Everything has a learning curve, and I've a half-dozen more urgent issues with my bike, a couple of credit card issuers and other banks to get in touch with, beer to drink......

Seriously, thanks for the suggestions but I'm more in a putting-out-brushfires mode at the moment. Downloading another OS, while eminently sensible (and also quite possible here in Cali), just gives me more disconnected information to track. Adding a parallel word processing capability might complicate life as well--for whatever reason, when my EEEPC started acting funny one of the first signs was that Open Office files I'd saved as .doc files started becoming unreadable on Windows machines. I don't know why, and I don't want to know why. But I do know that the more variables and the more steps in a complex process, the more there is to foul up, whether my fault of Mister Gates'.

And the thought of having a CD sent to me somewhere in South America has comedy value, but probably wouldn't work very well here on the ground. But who know?

I'm just miffed about the whole issue, and the fact that Macs and my one Linux netbook were up and running so effortlessly compared to this one doesn't help settle my nerves.

Safe journeys!

Mark

FWIW, I've used OpenOffice and Word on the same machines for ages, and have saved documents back and forth many hundreds of times. Never a problem other than minor and inevitable formatting glitches. A new laptop should handle both no sweat.

I do prefer working in Word but hey -- OpenOffice is free. Good luck with all the brush fires ~~

I've been looking because I want another Asus (or something close) with a bigger keyboard than the tiny one I have now. I'll be in Korea for another 8 months at least. I had an iBook but the thing rattled itself apart (in a car!) on a month long trip. I'm willing to pay extra for SSD after that (although my brand new iPod 160 didn't like the monsoon I rode through).

I'm pretty happy with my Asus -- it took riding around India on an Enfield just fine. I've been sitting here at work researching computers and it hit me, just check on the HUBB.

No matter what netbook you buy:
 

No matter what netbook you buy copy your back up CD to an SD card before you set off. If you don't know how to do this Google the users' forum, and you'll find out. Set up your BIOS in readiness so it boots first from SD card, it's perfectly safe to leave it like that the whole time with the SD slot empty.

Secondly, I'd recommend looking at Portable Apps there's plenty of free software there and all designed to run off a memory card/stick. Even if you install the same programs on your hard drive carrying memory with portable apps back ups gets you back computing in minutes not hours, and one card or stick hardly takes up a lot of room. And it means you can plug in your memory in any PC and use the same programs if it all goes belly up.

Hmmm. These suggestions might have saved me some struggle, particularly copying my system CD to a card before leaving home. Ah well.

Asus is now working fine, although quite subject to Microsoft glitches. Perhaps I'll get around to Linux and Open Office sooner or later after all. Thanks for all suggestions.

Mark

(Cali, and ready to move on)

Has anyone tried to run GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) or UFRaw via a Portable Apps program?

I want to cut the laptop/netbook completely out of the equation, but photo editing is the one stopping point for me. If GIMP and UFRaw on a Portable Apps cd/solid state harddrive works...Problem solved!

Hmmm. I'd forgotten about this thread, but I'll add that my Acer screen started going bad at around 6 months--that's 6 months on the back of a bike, about 40,000 km on and off road--and has continued to get worse since. It's still usable, but not much fun anymore looking at photos. Don't know whether it's significant that this never happened on my Asus.

Mark

(not far from home now, with the question being which will give out first: me, the bike, my netbook, my riding clothes, my bank account.....)

generally speaking they all use the same screens. Most screens are completely interchangeable between ASUS, Acer, HP, etc ... a 8.9 inch netbook screen is a generic item, sourced as cheaply as possible from factories churning out squillions of them. Spare screens are readily available on ebay.

No problem: How To: Install UFRaw into Gimp 2.6.8 Portable | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives

Excellent.

How about a portable app that syncs photos with a GPS data file for geotagging?

Try GeoSetter (freeware / donations encouraged).

Download the .zip version. Instructions to make it portable (from its readme.txt file):

I haven't tried it myself but I believe you can just make an empty config.ini.

Thanks again, I'll have to try that out.

To me this is part of the fun. Researching and trying out different gear, software, ideas, etc.

I was trying to leave the laptop at home...but I very much doubt I'll want or have the ability to spend hours on end playing with photo editing software, gps syncs, etc.

Now I'm sort of thinking that a cheap, durable laptop with a WiFi card and a logmein application to my heavy duty comptuer back home will be the way to go. Sitting in a hostel or cafe with wifi and using the hardware back home via logmein is much more appealing than waiting in line and receiving dirty looks from fellow travelers.

I have a Sony Vaio, it's fantastic. I use it for video editing, photo editing, all my internet needs etc but it also has a good video card so I can play the latest games on the road! A real treat when you're bored...

Oh it's also core 2 duo, 4gb of ram, 300gb hdd and only of 15" size. To be honest I wouldn't want to downgrade just to save 1/3 of it's size compared to a netbook.

To travel with it I just wedge it in a blanket & towel inside my sports bag, no vibration or impact damage when my bike has fallen, tbh I couldn't be happier!

Tablets
 

Anyone using tablets these days? With all the new tablets that are out such as the ipad and others that are so small compared to laptops I would think they would be a contender for any adventurer.

Any using them that would like to contribute their thoughts??c?

combine the two! thinkpad x tablet series!

I used one of the original EEE PC 701's for three years and had it stuck in my tank bag for over 40,000 miles. I hate to admit it, but it survived about 20 drops of the bike doh in that time. No issues even though at times the tank bag would depart the bike during one of these memorable little events. I eventually installed a full-blown desktop version of Ubuntu on it, and while it worked fine with it, the rather small 4 Gig SSD didn't leave much working room.

As a result, I have since replaced the 701 with a 16 Gig SSD Asus EEE PC 900 that I bought second hand on Ebay for about $100. It's the same size as the 701, but in addition to the larger SSD hard drive, has a larger screen. It came infected with Windows XP and so I immediately stripped that off and installed Ubuntu 11.04. There were absolutely no issues installing Ubuntu on it. It recognized all the hardware including the touchpad, wireless adapter and webcam. I did upgrade a few things... upgraded the RAM from 1 to 2 Meg, upgraded the battery to a larger one that now allows a bit more than 3 hours online and installed an English-Russian keyboard. The SSD is a plug-in unit on the board, and so is upgradeable to a larger drive if you want to spend the bucks. With an SD slot and 3 USB ports, storage and transfer are not an issue. It's a rockin' little machine. Even does the Compiz cube and wiggly windows!

I would be hesitant myself about a laptop with a spinning hard drive... at least given my history of not being able to keep it on two wheels all the time. I took a laptop hard drive in a USB enclosure on my first trip to back up photos on, and although I thought I had it safely packed away in my luggage, it did not survive the first summer. My only issue with the old 701 was that when it was damp or wet for extended periods, the touchpad would sometimes lose sensitivity, although a mouse would continue to work. The touchpad always came back to life when the machine dried out though.

The EEE PC's are solid little machines and since they are a bit older now, they can be had pretty cheaply on Ebay. Very highly recommended.

Have to agree. I'm back to using my EEE PC now, following a motherboard replacement by the factory (following a lot of time unpadded on the back of my bike). I sent it in, they told me it would cost a couple of hundred bucks, I told them not to bother, they did it anyway for free. Good service, I thought.

My Acer Aspire screen was not easily replaceable, despite Colebatch's report above. I bought it in Panama, and it had an odd size screen. When I looked into it, replacements were thin on the ground in the States, and expensive. I bought another Aspire used for a hundred dollars and change, but I use the EEE PC more often because it's proved hardier.

I don't know how a new tablet or Mac Air might do. I'm good with minimalist, $1-200 Craigslist netbooks. The SSD drive has been durable and reliable for me.

Mark

Tablets are fine for the basics, like staying in touch by email, simple blogging etc, but they fall down when it comes to things like photo and video editing, and connecting to other devices. That said they are getting better, sadly they're not getting cheaper. For three price of a decent tablet you could buy a proper netbook, which would take up hardly any more space and give you a much more versatile machine, be it Linux or Windows.

If you really do want something light weight, with a touch screen, then I'd get one of the newer large screen Android smartphones on contract. You won't pay the upfront price of a tablet, you'll have all the same functions plus a phone you could unlock and use with locally bought SIMs, in a package which is easier to carry. Samsung have just brought out a 5" screen phone, the Galaxy Note, which looks like it could be the perfect combination, it even has a built in 8mb camera, all in something which will just fit in the back pocket of your jeans.

Yes I have a tablet, the Samsung Galaxy 10.1", possibly one of the most user friendly. It would be okay for a short trip of less than a month but I wouldn't take it for a 6 month trip, it would become too frustrating. The wi-fi isn't as good as a laptop either although the battery life is amazing, it's a great device for watching movies and listening to music. It's main advantage is that you can pull it out anywhere, it turns on instantly and you can check things quickly then be back on the road again.

Personally for a longer trip I'd be looking at the new ultra-books from Asus, those things are amazing, I was playing with them in the shop the other day. They're so small and light they're almost like tablets anyway.

A friend of mine uses a RAM mounted Fizzbook Spin netbook/tablet in his 4x4. Aimed at the school classroom, 10.1" screen,

"designed to pass a 50cm drop test, and has a water resistant keyboard, 4.5 hour battery life, surfaces resistant to reasonable damage and improved dust resistance. A built in carry handle improves handling"

The current 250GB version is about £400

Fizzbook | Home

" • Processor - Intel® Atom™ N450 Single Core, 1.66GHz, 512K L2 Cache
• Operating System - Genuine Windows® 7 Starter or Professional 32-Bit
• Memory - 1GB, DDR2, 800MHZ capped at 667Mhz bus
• Chipset - Intel® NM10 Express
• Graphics - Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 3150
• LCD Display - 10.1 inch WSVGA (1024 x 600) Resistive touch panel
• Audio - High Definition audio
• Speakers - 2 x 1.0 Watt with 2 channel
• Microphone - Integrated single analog
• Hard Drives - 160GB SATA HDD 2.5 inch 5400RPM
• Optical Drives - No
• Power - 4-cell 7.4V (2200mAh cell) Li-Ion Battery / 6-cell 56WHr Li-Ion
• Camera - 1.3 MP Integrated Webcam (standard on all configurations)
• Bluetooth - No


• Wireless - Wireless 802.11b.g.n
• Externally Accessible - Kensington lock
• Ports - AC Power-in, RJ45 connector, VGA, 2 x USB 2.0, 2 x Audio
• Card Reader - Secure Digital (SD/SDHC) Memory Card
• ME (PC ABS) - Rubberised Chassis
• Handle Bar - Handle Bar
• Web Camera - 1.3M pixel rotatable
• Keyboard / Touchpad - Water resistant Keyboard / Touchpad
• Security - TPM Module
• Height - Height 195mm (7.67 inches)
• Width - Width 265mm (10.4 inches)
• Depth - Depth 30.5mm to 38mm ( 1.20 to 1.49 inches)
• Starting Weight - 1.59kg (3.50 lbs) with 4 Cell battery and 1.65Kg (3.63lbs) with 6-cell battery"


:)

Since I do a bit of photo editing, I got really fed up using a standard netbook (samsung nc10) as it was soooo slow. I also find the widescreen format very limiting when editing documents and portrait photos. I trawled the net and bought a refurbed Lenovo X61. For less than the cost of a netbook I got a full-power laptop with a 4:3 screen which still folds to practically the same size as a netbook. They are more robust than most netbooks with a rubber suspended hard-drive, a magnesium case and splash-proof keyboard.

Worth a look.

the perfect travel computer?
 

I've had an asus netbook running windows 7 (MT91), that was quite cheap, but I have to ditch it because it is sooooooooo slow. I reckon this 10.1 inch android tablet coming very soon from Asus will be just about ideal for travel:

ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime review -- Engadget

Detachable keyboard for real typing, potential 18 hour battery life with the extra battery in the keyboard, solid state drive, massively expandable storage, and a the first tablet with a quad-core processor that should handle high demand tasks like video editing much better, also will be able to run the newest Android 'Ice Cream Sandwich'.

Well.....maybe you need a machine which will edit video in a hurry. I don't. I need something basic, reliable, and cheap enough so that if it breaks or gets stolen I'm still ok. Diffrent strokes.

Mark

Are there some decent video editing apps for android?

Ryan

back to a real computer
 

Unfortunately there don't seem to be any good video editing apps for android. Tablets now ship with the Android Movie Studio, but it seems to be even more limited than Imovie.

I'm now leaning towards a 11'' macbook air for more all around functionality.

well, this settles my delima. i'll buy a ?????????????????????? jeez, complicated. who really cares about my pics/videos/bloggins?