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nugentch 2 Jan 2012 16:24

Central America Border Crossing Info
 
I have checked the Border Crossing section and all the info seems to be 5 years old or more. Can someone tell me where I might find more up to date border crossing info for Central America? From what I can tell most borders are fairly straight forward with Honduras being the most "interesting". Any info on procedures, preferred crossings, whether to use a "fixer" or not would be appreciated! :helpsmilie:

John Downs 2 Jan 2012 17:37

I posted this information that you might find useful from a trip to Panama and back in 2010:

Specifically Central American border crossings. The smaller, less used border towns really are a lot mellower. Staying away from the Pan American highway with the long lines, busloads of tourists and miles of traffic means that you avoid the long wait times and lines.

I used to live in Oregon and would often ride up to British Colombia from Washington state. It never ceased to amaze me how mellow the Sumas Washington border crossing was going into Canada with little or no wait time as opposed to the busy border crossing just to the west on Interstate 5 where there are generally long lines and wait times and stern crabby border guards.

It's the same way in Central America.

For instance, following the PanAmerican Highway south from Mexico into Guatemala at Tapachula is crowded and confusing. It is down in the hot flat coastal plain. The border folks there are hot and crabby and you can be stuck there for a couple hours. At least I was the one time I crossed there years ago. I prefer to turn inland 30 miles before the border at Huixla and take the winding mountain road (Mex. 220 libre) that climbs up into the cooler highlands and cross into Guatemala at La Mesilla. I have been through this border crossing three times and was always the only person there. No tramitadores (helpers) because there is no business for them. And the border officials are friendly and helpful. The town itself is crowded with vendors and open air markets selling cheap goods to the Guatemalans. So you have to thread through the markets until you get to the border gate. But the place to get your passport stamped and your bike checked in are right at the border gate on the right hand side of the road. So you just park there and walk a few steps to the migracion window to get your passport stamped, and the aduana guy is right there to check your bike paperwork. A few steps to the right is the door to the bank where you pay your 7 dollar entry fee. (I think it was 12 quetzals for bike fumigation which they never did and 40 or 50 quetzals entry fee).

It is even easier coming north heading out of Guatemala into Mexico at the La Mesilla crossing. They just stamp your passport, cancel your bike permit and you pay a three dollar exit fee. Fifteen minutes and you're heading back to Mexico. Easy peasy.

Heading south into Honduras is equally mellow at the Copan Ruinas crossing. It has been paved now and there are even signs pointing to the border, so pretty easy to find these days. You ride up to the border gate and park your bike to leave Guatemala. The Guatemala migracion and aduana are in the building just past the gate on the left.

All the border crossings in Central America have you fill out the same entry and exit form. It is easy to fill in the blanks since they have the English in parenthesis after the Spanish. Nombre (name), numero de pasaporte (passport number). That sort of thing. So you get progressively better at making it through the borders. You don't need helpers at the small Copan Ruinas border crossing. You get the Guatemala exit form at the migracion window and fill it out and go to the Saliendo (exit) window at migracion to hand over your completed form and passport to get it stamped out of Guatemala. Then you go to Aduana where you hand over your stamped passport, license, bike title to get your bike import stamp canceled in your passport. You pay the three dollar exit fee and you're done.

The borders all are slightly different, with different requirements for copies of your documents. But the main thing to remember is that when entering a country, you first go to Migracion (immigration) to the entrada (entry) window to get your passport stamped in to a country and then go to Aduana (customs) to get your bike importation papers squared away.

Entry to Honduras requires 2 photocopies of your passport, drivers license, bike title and bike CA-4 papers from Guatemala. At Copan Ruinas, the only copy shop is on the Guatemala side next to the police station a block back from the border gate on the left. Although the Guatemala migracion lady made my copies since it was dark and the copy shop was closed and she was very nice. After getting copies you ride up a block or two past Guatemala border gate to the Honduras migracion and aduana building. It is the second dumpy building on the left. I was the only one there, and the corpulent border official looked bored with life as he slowly filled out my bike papers and stamped me into Honduras. But it was relatively quick. Maybe 15 minutes and 625 lempiras (34.00) later I was riding into Honduras. It is a sleepy laid back border crossing. I have been through the El Amatillo border crossing into Honduras on the PanAmerican highway and the difference is like night and day.

Heading south out of Honduras is relatively painless at Las Manas or El Espino. Both are mellow, there is much less to do getting out of Honduras than getting in. Just fill out the exit form hand it over at the Saliendo (exit) window at migracion along with your passport, get stamped out, and then go to aduana to get the bike stamped out. Pay a 2.00 exit fee and you are ready to head into Nicaragua.

Nicaragua actually sprays your bike and charges you a 1.00 and then it is over to the entrada window at migracion for the form to fill out before getting your passport stamped. And then to the line to pay the 150 Cordoba (7.50) entrance fee. They require insurance. But there are ladies with clipboards wandering around. Just ask for the person selling mandatory insurance (seguros obligatorio). I need insurance is "necesita seguros obligatorio" in Spanish. It costs 12.00. Then it is over to aduana to hand in your stamped passport, bike title, license and insurance to get the bike stamped into Nicaragua. I went through Las Manos on the way south into Nicaragua and came back north through El Espino. Both were easy places to cross. I was expecting it to take longer getting back into Honduras heading north, but it was pretty painless at El Espino. Three dollars to leave Nicaragua and the same procedure of filling out an exit form, getting passport stamped, getting bike stamped out. And the same two copies of everything to get back into Honduras. But I was the only person there in the middle of the day and coming back into Honduras at El Espino was surprisingly painless. And the insurance I got in Nicaragua was good for the trip back north, so hold onto it for the return trip if you aren't continuing on to South America.

The most time consuming border crossing I faced was the Nicaragua/Costa Rica (Nica/Tica) border at Penas Blancas. There is only one way in on the Pan American highway and it is a zoo. In the hopes that someone will save some time crossing this border I am going to give a detailed explanation of the convoluted process. Especially if you don't speak Spanish, it is confusing to get through this border. You will know you are getting near as you pass miles of trucks parked on the right hand side of the road. The truck traffic is backed up for miles at all the busy PanAmerican highway border crossings. Eventually you get to the border gate and a guy will come running up insisting you pay a 1.00 for a municipal parking tax. This is legit. He gives you a receipt. The next step is to stop for the man at the border gate with the clipboard. He enters your moto license number on his clipboard and gives you a slip of paper. Hold on to this paper. It needs two signitures later in the process of getting out of Nicaragua. Then you go behind the Aduana building on your left to the migracion building behind it. You get an exit form at any migracion window. There were busloads of people and long lines in the Saliendo (exit) lines at Nicaragua migracion, so you have plenty of time to fill out your form in line. You hand in the filled out exit form and passport and get it stamped. Then head to the payment line to pay your 3.00 exit fee. Then you look for the aduana official wandering around the parking lot between migracion and aduana buildings. He has a badge hanging around his neck on a string. You need to have him sign the piece of paper the gate person gave you. Then you need the signiture of the police guy (policia). He is supposed to be at a police shack near aduana, but I tracked him down in the air conditioned duty free liquor store. You need his signiture on your slip of paper before they will process out the bike from Nicaragua. He is supposed to check your VIN number, but he signed it without even looking at the bike. Then you can go inside the aduana building and hand over your passport, license, and bike title and your precious piece of paper with two signitures in order to get your bike stamped out of Nicaragua. And you are free to head down the road a short way to enter Costa Rica. The first stop in Costa Rica is the bike spray booth on the right where you pay 3.00 and they spray your bike. Then you go to the migracion building down the road on the left and get in the entrada line at migracion inside the building. There were busloads of people backed up outside the building and they were letting 50 or so in at a time. It took a while. You need a copy of your passport and bike title during the process, and there is a copy shop inside the migracion building. They also sell the mandatory insurance that is necessary for the bike. It was 7400 Colones (13.00). After getting your passport stamped you need to go across the street to the initial aduana checker. He looks over your paperwork and checks your VIN number and gives you the okay to head to the main aduana building. This is more of a warehouse down the road and to the right around a huge parking lot of semi trucks. At the aduana building, you fill out a form that was all in Spanish, so if you can't read Spanish you may need help. Then stand in line and get ignored while they wait on the truckers, until they finally take your title, insurance, license, copy of title, and stamped passport, and stamp the bike into Costa Rica. This whole process took two and a half hours on the way down and one and a half hours on the way up since I knew the routine. Which is why I avoid the busy PanAmerican highway crossings whenever possible.

Heading south into Panama there is a nice tranquil crossing on the Carribean side at Sixaola, or the mellow crossing in the mountains at Rio Sereno. The Sixaola crossing is totally laid back and kind of cool since you are crossing the Sixaola river on an old railway bridge thumping over planks nailed down to the railroad ties between the rails. This trip I went through the relatively new Rio Sereno crossing. Sabalito is the closest town to the border on the Costa Rican side. It is a few miles past San Vito. When you come into Sabalito there are no signs to Rio Sereno, Panama that I saw. I had to ask. The right way was to head through the little town of Sabalito down maybe a mile out of town on a two lane paved road. Past a school on the left and down a straight stretch. I remember there was a soda tienda on the right just before the road had a 90 degree curve to the right. That was where there was a left hand turn onto a paved road (unmarked) that led to the border. You go down that road a short ways (like 2 blocks) and it turns into rough gravel where it Y's at a school. You go on the left gravel fork at the school and continue down the gravel road. I think there were a couple minor forks that were driveways. Anyway, it's not far. Maybe 5 miles or so to the border. The gravel road comes to an intersection at Rio Sereno. Right before the intersection is the Costa Rica migracion up a slight hill on the left. Easy to miss. You have to get a photocopy of your passport at the 2nd grocery store around the intersection to the right down the steep hill. They have a copy machine. Then take it back to Costa Rica migracion and they'll stamp you out. He left my bike papers open so I didn't check it out since I came back through Rio Sereno on my way north. Really cool dude. No cost to exit Costa Rica.

Then you go to Panama migracion which is the building up the hill to the left across the street from the intersection. They need a photocopy of your passport as well. No cost to get stamped in. Then across the street downhill to Aduana for the bike. Mandatory insurance is available around the corner for 15.00 from a cute skinny Panamanian chica, and they want a 1.00 to spray the bike. But no other cost.

Hopefully this info will help you out. I made it through all these borders without any helpers. And I'm not too bright, and don't speak much Spanish.

Kindest regards,
John Downs

nugentch 2 Jan 2012 19:51

THANKS! This is just the kind of info I was looking for!!!:thumbup1:

Scrabblebiker 3 Jan 2012 01:32

That was a great post, John!

I posted something after my 2010 trip as well. If you simply search my name you should be able to find the post.


...Michelle
www.scrabblebiker.com

BcDano 4 Jan 2012 06:07

Look under each countries listing on Drive the Americas site for border crossing info. Lots of good stuff.

Central America | Drive the Americas




World Wide Ride

The Adventure Begins July!!

nugentch 4 Jan 2012 14:43

Thanks!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BcDano (Post 361606)
Look under each countries listing on Drive the Americas site for border crossing info. Lots of good stuff.

Central America | Drive the Americas




World Wide Ride

The Adventure Begins July!!

:thumbup1:

ReeceNZ 4 Jan 2012 23:11

Some great information guys

nugentch 5 Jan 2012 18:55

Thanks for all the good info. I have travelled a lot in the US, Canada and Europe, but I am a Latin American virgin and really appreciate all the good info on border crossing. I take it is a little different that crossing into Ontario!

Any info on buying liability insurance at the borders. I'm going to buy the Mexican insurance on-line, but I am not really sure about Central America. I DO NOT want to ride without liability insurance.

Also the TVIP thingy on the windshield you get when crossing into Mexico... do you have to give it up when crossing into Central American and then get a new one on the way back up, or do you just keep it and surrender it on the northern exit?

Thanks!

Calvin 5 Jan 2012 23:02

Quote:

the TVIP thingy on the windshield you get when crossing into Mexico... do you have to give it up when crossing into Central American and then get a new one on the way back up, or do you just keep it and surrender it on the northern exit?
In 2010 and spring 2011 I crossed into Guatemala and was allowed to keep the TVIP it all depends on the agent, some say now it has changed and you do give up the TVIP
In 2011 I also had to give up my tourist permit and buy a new one on the way back.
Guatemala allows you to keep it for the return trip and Honduras allowed me to keep it also , only of I returned at the same crossing Los Manos, they put it on a desk in a pile of papers a foot high and 3 weeks later it was still there for my return!

You are not required to put the permit on the windshield, I kept mine in my important papers

checkerdd 8 Jan 2012 14:59

Skip Sal
 
I had the most problems going into and out of El Salvador. Yes I was on the pan am. I say skip that country and you will have a better attitude about Central America. Also have 5-6 extra copies of the documents they are going ask you for. I.E. Vehicle title, registration, your home drivers license, photo and holder info page of your passport. That way if the border xerox is broke you can still get through. No one asked me for photos when I crossed last October. Dave

oldguy 22 Jan 2012 23:43

Good work John
 
That post says it all. You are right on with regard to the little crossings into Guatamala, Honduras etc. Nothing further needed.jeiger

ziloc 8 Feb 2012 16:25

Thanks
 
Thanks for taking the time to write this up John, great information.

Delbert 16 Feb 2012 15:10

I have just come through to TDF and despite the warnings of the border crossings taking hours, I was thru each time in under 30 or 40 mins. Maybe just lucky with timing.

I know it is not the worst place in the world to cross a border!

Cheers
Delb

Roameo 22 Feb 2012 17:57

This was great info! I am heading down for the first time this October and have a better understanding of the procedures now. Like the idea of avoiding the big borders especially being a newbie. Stressful enough first go round.

nanagosa4 17 Apr 2012 17:05

Lest we forget
 
Another great C.A. border read is at....
Central America By Motorcycle: Border Crossings

naotweed 20 Apr 2012 22:15

Crossing Summary
 
I made a summary table for all the border crossing we did on our Latin America trip in 2010/2011. It can be found on my blog (in my sig) and you are welcome to contact me personally about specific experiences
naomi.j.tweddle (at) gmail.com

Happy Travels:mchappy:

einnocent 22 Apr 2012 18:55

Some title questions
 
Hi, everyone! I'm doing a trip from SF to TdF soon. My questions:

My motorcycle has an electronic title. What do I do? Has anyone crossed a Central/South American border while having one of these?

If I were to get a paper title, should I bring the original, or is it sufficient to have copies?

Thanks!

scooper 23 Apr 2012 12:25

Only paper title will work and a few copies would be handy, but you always end up making copies from papers you can only do @ the borders such as tourists cards or stamps from the country to prove you entered, so you make as well all copies on the borders and have less paperwork to carry around and the copies are not that expensive and usually the people what make the copies, know exactly what you need!

Grecy 18 Jul 2012 03:52

WikiOverland, the encyclopedia of Overland travel contains everything you're going to need to know about border crossings in Central America. It's updated regularly by people traveling through Go through each country (i.e. Overland Guatemala Travel - WikiOverland ) to see the process at the border, fees, gas prices, safety, maps, etc. etc. etc.

-Dan

einnocent 19 Jul 2012 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grecy (Post 386255)
WikiOverland, the encyclopedia of Overland travel contains everything you're going to need to know about border crossings in Central America. It's updated regularly by people traveling through Go through each country (i.e. Overland Guatemala Travel - WikiOverland ) to see the process at the border, fees, gas prices, safety, maps, etc. etc. etc.

-Dan

I tried to create an account but it would not let me without creating a handle from my actual name. Since I'm not comfortable using my actual name publicly, I did not register with the site. Please alter this so that I may begin contributing. I'm currently in Guatemala doing the Pan American via moto.

jlarch 13 Sep 2012 02:14

Customs for Bike in Panama
 
We are crossing from Cartagena to Carti in November and understand that the customs clearance for the bikes must be done in Panama City.
Does anybody have any experience , tips for the process?
J

Heidi and Bernd 14 Sep 2012 17:03

hi

you come over with the stahlratte?? than you get all the informations from ludwig - no worries.

when not: ride to the airport Aduana

GPS
Nord 9*04.680 West 79*22.224


from there to the "main office" - a small shelter on the right.

N 09*05.072 W 79*22.318

inside are two nice ladies, there know how it works - easy job! you dont need insurence or copys there!!

easy and fast!

cheers from costa rica,

bernd

markharf 14 Sep 2012 19:36

The aduana office for imports and exports is near Albrook airport in P.C. Taxi drivers can find it for you--hire one to lead you there. Accomplishing anything involves the usual run of inexplicable bits of paper taken from one office to the next for stamps and signatures. We eventually found the Big Man who could make things happen, and he snarled at a few underlings who then did all the running around on our behalf. All in all, not too bad in Central American terms.

I've also used the airport office, but only when I was flying the bike out. When I was there even the office staff in their little shack were confused about whether any documentation was necessary. I had to insist, and I'm glad I did because when I returned the office in P.C. tried, but failed, to find anything wrong with my papers. That office is definitely more convenient than the main office in town if they can give you what you need.

Hope that's helpful.

Mark

airdale74451 21 Sep 2012 03:12

Roameo have you started the ride? im leaving around October 1st from Oklahoma. You can cross wit me at the ferry at Eagle Pass, Texas. This is my first time also.

twowheelsthreeamericas
-Dale

harryls 30 Sep 2012 23:24

How I was taken for one at the Mex/Guatemala border....
 
I so wish I had done a bit of research on the HUBB before I made for Guatemala....Thank you one and all for the help here that will see great economies for this sucker...
Here is an an extract from my blog, www.vegibike.com.

"....I got done over like a good'un at the Talisman, Mexico / Guatemalan border. Basically I fell for one of the oldest tricks in the book and handed over US$160 to my “fixer" who was helping me through the rather vague import procedure. He asked for this money to buy the permit to drive in Central America. Although I questioned him vigorously, he persuaded me that it was essential to drive any further. Off he toddled to get the form, whilst I was kept occupied by his conniving pal for half an hour. When he got back he had all the paperwork and rushed me through the final gate saying it was about to close. Of course at this stage I was none the wiser, and thanked him profusely giving him a generous tip on top of his US$20 pre-agreed fee. Again it was at the end of the day, after 5 hours of steep mountain roads that I thought I better put all the paper work in the right folders etc. To my horror my more thorough look at the receipt showed that it was 160 Quetzales, about US$20. Of course I was livid, with myself as much as anything, and planned to head back the next day to confront the rascal. After a night's sleep I realise that there was very little proof and the chances of him being there for the next month was highly unlikely, as it amounted to several weeks pay...."

If anyone comes across a very short rotund 30ish year old 'fixer' at this border called Manuel (probably not actual), please say that there is an Englishman not wishing him as well as he would have liked to. And then don't use him...thanks..

richsuz 9 Oct 2012 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by airdale74451 (Post 393293)
Roameo have you started the ride? im leaving around October 1st from Oklahoma. You can cross wit me at the ferry at Eagle Pass, Texas. This is my first time also.

twowheelsthreeamericas
-Dale

airdale74451, Roameo is already in Nicargua. Drop me a PM when you are close to Guatemala. I am a local rider if you need any advice.

AndyT 10 Oct 2012 01:58

Just crossed into Guatemala at Cuatehmoc Mexico/La Mesilla Guatemala today. Professional and friendly both sides, bike is only out of your sight for a few minutes. Tourist visa was free, bike permit Q160~=$20. I need to check my credit card account in a few days to make sure my Mexican deposit of $200 was refunded.

moto_girl 10 Oct 2012 02:51

visas for Euroean vs US citizens
 
Does anybody know if border crossings in Central and South America are the same for Europeans and US citizens in terms of purchasing my visas? Thanks!
:helpsmilie:

rtwpaul 10 Oct 2012 04:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by moto_girl (Post 395808)
Does anybody know if border crossings in Central and South America are the same for Europeans and US citizens in terms of purchasing my visas? Thanks!
:helpsmilie:

zero visa cost on a UK passport

Sjoerd Bakker 10 Oct 2012 19:48

Perhaps it depends on which European country supplied your Euro passport.
There may well not be a charge for "a visa" but at most of the CA borders you actually do not need a VISA per se.
VISA means a specially stamped page in your passport which you get from their embassy or consulate before you even show up at a border crossing.
The CA countries and Mexico and even the USA (depending on where you now live) will accept your valid passport as adequate proof of citizenship and your good intent as a tourist and will readily issue ,after you complete the forms , a tourist card to let you into the country for a few months stay.
There will be fees associated with getting the tourist card and for temporarily importing your bike or car and for other services rendered at the border such as "fumigacion" ,municipal tourist tax etc. These at each country vary ,some add up to only a few dollars while some may come to a total of around $48 to $50 US DOLLARS at most before you are ready to step into the actual country.
Watch your receipts and the currency required for each payment and do not let yourself be confused by slick operating swindling so-called helpers.
Some borders demand all payment in moneda nacional, some will allow a mix of MN and US Dollars

AndyT 12 Oct 2012 00:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtwpaul (Post 395820)
zero visa cost on a UK passport

Is that true for Mexico as well? My tourist card cost 290 pesos (~$23) on a USA passport. Just curious.

moto_girl 12 Oct 2012 03:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtwpaul (Post 395820)
zero visa cost on a UK passport

I am from Austria, Europe :-)

moto_girl 12 Oct 2012 03:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sjoerd Bakker (Post 395930)
Perhaps it depends on which European country supplied your Euro passport.
There may well not be a charge for "a visa" but at most of the CA borders you actually do not need a VISA per se.
VISA means a specially stamped page in your passport which you get from their embassy or consulate before you even show up at a border crossing.
The CA countries and Mexico and even the USA (depending on where you now live) will accept your valid passport as adequate proof of citizenship and your good intent as a tourist and will readily issue ,after you complete the forms , a tourist card to let you into the country for a few months stay.
There will be fees associated with getting the tourist card and for temporarily importing your bike or car and for other services rendered at the border such as "fumigacion" ,municipal tourist tax etc. These at each country vary ,some add up to only a few dollars while some may come to a total of around $48 to $50 US DOLLARS at most before you are ready to step into the actual country.
Watch your receipts and the currency required for each payment and do not let yourself be confused by slick operating swindling so-called helpers.
Some borders demand all payment in moneda nacional, some will allow a mix of MN and US Dollars

Thanks, Sjoerd Bakker. Any advice helps! I guess I will get the hang of it ... it's just a lot to take in. :-) BTW, I am from Austria, Europe.

rtwpaul 12 Oct 2012 03:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by moto_girl (Post 396119)
I am from Austria, Europe :-)

got to www.visahq.com....enter your country (austria) and where you normally live and then the countries you want to enter and it will tell you if visas are required and if so how much they are, they should be the same price at the borders as you ride thru

moto_girl 12 Oct 2012 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtwpaul (Post 396121)
got to www.visahq.com....enter your country (austria) and where you normally live and then the countries you want to enter and it will tell you if visas are required and if so how much they are, they should be the same price at the borders as you ride thru

That's a great website. Thank you so much! :D Now I know that I don't need a tourist visa for any of the places I want to go to. Is there anything like this to check if I need transit visas?

rtwpaul 12 Oct 2012 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by moto_girl (Post 396198)
That's a great website. Thank you so much! :D Now I know that I don't need a tourist visa for any of the places I want to go to. Is there anything like this to check if I need transit visas?

when you say transit visa do you mean for importing the bike and related fees? if so i can't think of one off hand, maybe someone else has a site with info, i did a search but couldn't find one...mexico is the only place thats requires a large refundable deposit, their kind of version of a carnet i guess, but nowhere in Ca or Sa is a carnet required that i have traveled thru

moto_girl 12 Oct 2012 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtwpaul (Post 396226)
when you say transit visa do you mean for importing the bike and related fees? if so i can't think of one off hand, maybe someone else has a site with info, i did a search but couldn't find one...mexico is the only place thats requires a large refundable deposit, their kind of version of a carnet i guess, but nowhere in Ca or Sa is a carnet required that i have traveled thru

Yeah, that's what I meant by transit visa. Fees for you and your bike, carnets etc. when you take a road in instead of coming by plane ... there's just so many fees to pay. Do you know if the import fee for the mc is refundable everywhere? Some people say yes, others say no.

I also wonder if these fees are totally random depending on who you deal with. You say Mexico charged a large deposit. I found a site that says it's about $50, but Guatemala and Honduras were expensive to get in and out of ... very bizarre. This is the website I am talking about:

Central America By Motorcycle: Border Crossings

so what is it that makes all the difference? corrupt border officials???

rtwpaul 12 Oct 2012 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by moto_girl (Post 396231)
Yeah, that's what I meant by transit visa. Fees for you and your bike, carnets etc. when you take a road in instead of coming by plane ... there's just so many fees to pay. Do you know if the import fee for the mc is refundable everywhere? Some people say yes, others say no.

I also wonder if these fees are totally random depending on who you deal with. You say Mexico charged a large deposit. I found a site that says it's about $50, but Guatemala and Honduras were expensive to get in and out of ... very bizarre. This is the website I am talking about:

Central America By Motorcycle: Border Crossings

so what is it that makes all the difference? corrupt border officials???

mexico charges you a refundable deposit, they keep about 10% approx, not sure on the exact figures...i was charged differently coming in from guatemale to mexico than i was heading south from texas to mexico...once my money clears i can give you a figure for sure

belize has no entry fee but has a $30 exit fee, and some people have also been charged a $5 government fee and/ or a cleansing fee

again email me a about a week and i can tell you for sure

the link you sent is BS, i read a few lines and closed it, the information for one thing is 3 years old and that guy was taken to the cleaners, he was scammed everywhere it sounds like, i never had some those fees and have never heard of anyone else having them either, you don't need a helper at any border really, just use quieter border, borders not on the pan american highway are best...there are some fees, search for a thread about border crossings and 'john downs' specifically lists each one and fees, most are just a few dollars upto maybe $30

unless you are paying and getting a reciept or a stamp in your passport then question it

Grecy 12 Oct 2012 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by einnocent (Post 386433)
I tried to create an account but it would not let me without creating a handle from my actual name. Since I'm not comfortable using my actual name publicly, I did not register with the site. Please alter this so that I may begin contributing. I'm currently in Guatemala doing the Pan American via moto.

Sorry about that. We've been fighting spam pretty hard, and it seems having a "real" name limits the spam accounts a lot.

I understand not wanting to use your real name, you can just use two words seperated by a space. Ie you could be "e innocent".

Also, you don't have to make an account to contribute, you can just click "Edit" anywhere on the entire site and change anything that needs changing.

Thanks for any contributions!

-Dan

windrider 13 Oct 2012 20:37

Thanks for a great post John... Cheers...

AndyT 14 Oct 2012 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by moto_girl (Post 396231)
I also wonder if these fees are totally random depending on who you deal with. You say Mexico charged a large deposit. I found a site that says it's about $50, but Guatemala and Honduras were expensive to get in and out of ... very bizarre. This is the website I am talking about:

Central America By Motorcycle: Border Crossings

so what is it that makes all the difference? corrupt border officials???

The guy in that link was scammed unbelieveably badly, ignore his description.

I can give current info on USA-Mexico and Mexico-Guatemala crossings and 6 year old info on the rest of CA.

USA-Mex: I was charged $290 pesos, 23USD, for my tourist card. In Mexico you get a form with a stamp showing your port of entry to keep with your passport. I put this charge on my credit card right at the issuing office. For the bike they charged my credit card 3,2xx pesos, 254USD, which included the non refundable fee for the bike permit, and the refundable deposit. This was in Nuevo Laredo. When I exited at La Mesilla Guatemala, they refunded 202 USD to my credit card, so the cost of the permit was $52. Mexico used to have a different system of deposit, but now they hit your credit card for $200 for bikes 2000 and older, $300 for 2001-2007, and $400 for 2007 and newer. The refund was trouble free and very professionally handled. Under the old system the permit cost $32, so this has gone up quite a bit in the last year or so.

For Guatemala, I got a stamp in my passport for free, which is my only visa, no seperate document. Bike permit cost 160 Quetzales, or $21., paid at the bank office within steps of the aduana where I filled out the form. You will need some Quetzales to pay for this, as they only accept moneda nacional. There are money changers there, but know the exchange rate before hand and expect them to get 2% to change money, if you use them.

Reply here or PM me if you want 2006 info on the rest of CA, I won't go into that now as some is probably obsolete.

AndyT 14 Oct 2012 01:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtwpaul (Post 396121)
got to www.visahq.com....enter your country (austria) and where you normally live and then the countries you want to enter and it will tell you if visas are required and if so how much they are, they should be the same price at the borders as you ride thru

I took a look at that site, punched in my nationality, USA passport visiting Mexico for an example, and it says no visa required. I think it is just saying you don't need to apply in advance, because I have always in 12 or so crossings, had to obtain and pay for a tourist permit, but it is issued at the border with no advance permission. So just because it says no visa required, doesn't mean it is free crossing.

bubbalouiex 25 Feb 2013 22:34

repurchasing temporary import visa?
 
does anyone know if you have to turn in your temporary import visa on your bike in guatemala if you are coming back that way or do you have to repurchase it on your way back, thanks!

richsuz 25 Feb 2013 22:57

No you don't have to.
 
Provided you come back before it expires you only need to notify customs office at the border.:thumbup1:

Sjoerd Bakker 27 Feb 2013 03:47

+ 1 on what richsuz said about the Guatemala TVIP

DO be careful not to misplace or lose that or any other document, .
Not finding these papers is a guarantee for a long delay at the customs
office on the return trip.

A bit of a headsup for the eventual return to Mexico Babbalouiex . Since you left
Mexico at an unstaffed border crossing you probably still have both your Mexican. Tourist Card and TVIP . The TVIP will not create a problem because
you would have been allowed to keep it for the return trip on Mexico.
With luck and an understanding border worker your UNCANCELLED Tourist Card
also may be overlooked . Really, when crossing into Central America the Tourist Card must be cancelled and you should have had an Exit Stamp placed in
your passport below the Entry stamp of this trip when you crossed from
the USA..
Basically you are all set for the return through Mexico so when coming back to Mexico simply ride your bike
right through the border facility, show your documents if asked but
don't volunteer any information .At least you should have some
benefit from crossing out at the unguarded border .
Remember to cancel the MEXICAN TVIP before heading back into theUSA,
and be sure to get your bond refund........OR.....
If you sailed past blithely and avoided all the required customs processe when you first
entered Mexico from the USA then you will have to get the Mexican Tourist Card andTVIP and pay
the refundable security deposiit.
And take note, depending on where you cross to the USA you may
be able to that cancel and refund performed at a customs terminal/ checkpoint
many km before the actual border crossing in a city. Pay attention .

bubbalouiex 28 Feb 2013 20:04

Thank you for the information, guys. I still have my Guat and Mexican tvips so I should be good.


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