The arguments for some of these stoves seem flawed. Surley it's the fuel that counts?
- The tiny woodburners sound "green" but they're not really. Don't weigh much, but then who's counting ounces? They are also a fire risk and dirty your pots. Work in the rain?
- Alcohol gives only half the heat of gasoline or kero (so you need lots) and availability can be poor. Wind kills it's puny heat. Spill it in your pack though and just let it evaporate. Safe for 10 year old Boy Scouts.
- Gasoline is available anywhere in the world and you have plenty to spare on the bike. It's also HOT. Only diesel available? No problem.
- Ditto kero for availability but not nice if you spill it on clothing. Also HOT.
- Gas is very quick and clean but availability again questionable in some countries. Have you noticed the baffling array of different gas containers? It's HOT though, even at altitude.
A stove must be quick to put up and light, utterly reliable, have good fuel availability, be field strippable and most of all, produce lots and lots of HEAT.
My MSR is very good but requires assembly, my previous stove was a Coleman which was excellent but eventually choked on leaded fuel (which I couldn't fix at the time). The one before that was an ex US Army gasoline stove which was also excellent (stolen). The one before that was a SVEA which was excellent because it came in a tin box but leaked at the knob gland, and the one before that was a tiny metho stove used for picnics. We usually prefered to build a fire because the metho one took too long.
It's all about HEAT, stupid, and do you REALLY care about fossil fuels when you're starving and cold?
(I apologise for those who took offence at my remark "stupid". I would never besmirch all those Hubbers who contribute (and read) all these posts. It was a play on President Clintons desk sign which said "it's the economy, stupid". It was perhaps so subtle, nobody got it. Sorry. I have left the original post in to explain my contrition. Thanks to bert 333 for pointing this out. If you do a Google search on the phrase, it's in Wikipedia)
Tim ('91 R100GSPD)
The only baggage you carry should be in the panniers
Last edited by Tim Wood; 4 Mar 2009 at 13:44.
Reason: readers rightly taking offence at "stupid"