Vincent Jacket

[Dodger]

Has anybody owned one of these ?
British Wax Jackets Vincent Campbell Cooper



I like to wear my old Barbour occaionally ,but somehow it has miraculously shrunk around my manly form in the last couple of years .
The price of a new Barbour seems a bit silly ,but this jackey at 69 quid looks OK .
Any idea of the quality ?:confused1:

[mikeccm]

waxed cotton is so old that it must be impossible to make a bad version of the material. most people dont know that barbour, doadora, dianise? M&S, tommy hillfiger, and all of the quality brands are usualy made in eastern europe or china now. they must be made to an eec standard so for 70 quid sounds like a bargin. my first barbour jacket i used for the bike pissed in rain after a season then next copy i bought 15 years ago is still good. just coat them with a water proof solution the stuff you but on tents or the proper wax oil before use. when they get realy dirty and grubby but them in the washing machine and recoat them to water proof. check the stitching, should be double or treble so it dose not come appart when you fall off

[Texastrike]

Having used both Barbour and Belstaff some years ago (when there wasn't anything else) and now using modern, reliable, goretex clothing, I wouldn't touch waxed cotton unless it was for a fashion item, which is what I suspect this is. Walk away and get some decent gear.

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by Texastrike

Having used both Barbour and Belstaff some years ago (when there wasn't anything else) and now using modern, reliable, goretex clothing, I wouldn't touch waxed cotton unless it was for a fashion item, which is what I suspect this is. Walk away and get some decent gear.

Thank you for your observations , however that wasn't the question .

[palace15]

Originally Posted by Texastrike

Having used both Barbour and Belstaff some years ago (when there wasn't anything else) and now using modern, reliable, goretex clothing, I wouldn't touch waxed cotton unless it was for a fashion item, which is what I suspect this is. Walk away and get some decent gear.

If you knew where Dodger lives, I don't think you would suggest he wanted it as a fashion item!.

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by dave ede

If you knew where Dodger lives, I don't think you would suggest he wanted it as a fashion item!.

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The polar bears are very impressed with the latest fashions from Europe .
But they say that the models are too skinny and could do with a bit more meat on their bones !

[palace15]

Originally Posted by Dodger

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The polar bears are very impressed with the latest fashions from Europe .
But they say that the models are too skinny and could do with a bit more meat on their bones !

Is the wax on the cotton good for thier diets? MB along time ago gave me your gps co-ordinates love the straw bales seen on google earth!!!

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by dave ede

Is the wax on the cotton good for thier diets? MB along time ago gave me your gps co-ordinates love the straw bales seen on google earth!!!

If it was beeswax I think they would rather enjoy it .
But I've never hung around long enough to ask one .:confused1:

[Dodger]

I eventually bought one of these jackets .
At $108 Canadian [incl shipping] it's not a bad deal .
The waxed cotton is about the same weight as a Barbour and the style is very similar with a slant map pocket and rounded corners to the pockets ,so that the corners don't wear out .The zipper is strong metal with a large ring pull.

However the stitching is not as strong as a Barbour being only single .
The pockets are not as good as Barbour as they don't have a fold over flap to keep rain out .These pockets will most definately fill up with water ,if you ride in pouring rain .

I bought a size xxl [their largest size],but this proved to be only equivalent to a 48" Barbour [which I already have].
Not big enough for me !
As a casual jacket it would be fine ,but not for bad weather motorcycling .

I'm off to Ebay for a Barbour .

[Caminando]

You're right here Tex. And not only that, the gobby grease on the waxed jackets transfers itself to the clothes of all around you. The old Trial Master looks great, but otherwise these ancient items are no good at all.

Originally Posted by Texastrike

Having used both Barbour and Belstaff some years ago (when there wasn't anything else) and now using modern, reliable, goretex clothing, I wouldn't touch waxed cotton unless it was for a fashion item, which is what I suspect this is. Walk away and get some decent gear.

[backofbeyond]

Originally Posted by Caminando

You're right here Tex. And not only that, the gobby grease on the waxed jackets transfers itself to the clothes of all around you.

Oh that is so true. I had a number of them back in the days when they were what real bikers wore but they were the only bit of biking gear that was thrown out rather than thrown in a corner when something better came along.

The old saying that your hands need an oil change every time you put one on just about sums them up. Probably their day was done when the Japs came along with oil tight bikes and you could see how much of the mess came from the jacket rather than your Triumph engine.

Mind you, absence does make the heart grow fonder and I must admit to thinking about asking my son if he can find a cheap look alike in the Shanghai copy malls this summer - just for old times sake you understand.

[Dodger]

I guess some of you are so full of goretex that you don't understand the meaning of the word " occasionally " .[ Pease refer to original post ].

Originally Posted by backofbeyond

Mind you, absence does make the heart grow fonder and I must admit to thinking about asking my son if he can find a cheap look alike in the Shanghai copy malls this summer - just for old times sake you understand.

Then why don't you buy a Vincent jacket ,which is made in Britain ?
[Barbours are also made in Britain BTW].

[backofbeyond]

Originally Posted by Dodger;293199

Then why don't you buy a Vincent jacket ,which is made in Britain ?
[Barbours are also made in Britain BTW

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Well, originally it was because the £380 price tag I saw attached to the Belstaff version (although a bit less for the Barbour). That's lottery winning territory for me. The Vincent version is much more reasonable at £47.00 although I then instantly think how come it's so cheap. I know it says made in England but the cynic in me wonders if that might be the England about 50 miles west of Beijing.

However the real reason for asking my son to see what he can find in Shanghai is that he'd end up paying for it. My bike gear fund is down to zero after being stung for his air fare.

[Stormboy]

There's a couple of brands available here in Australia.

Biker Jacket - Australiana Design

The Bourke and Wills people make great swags and coats, so these should be fairly good.

Can't speak for the "Pit Crew" stuff, but Motociclio is a high end accessories place, so one would assume it to be good quality.

Leather Jackets - classic motorcycle leather jackets, traditional motorcycle leather jackets, belstaff style jackets, oilskin jackets, wax cotton jackets, stagg leather jackets, brando leather jackets

[JTT1]

Originally Posted by Dodger

I eventually bought one of these jackets .
At $108 Canadian [incl shipping] it's not a bad deal .

I bought a size xxl [their largest size],but this proved to be only equivalent to a 48" Barbour [which I already have].
Not big enough for me !
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Dodger, can you give me an idea of your size? I'm interested in a jacket of this type for occasional use (therefore don't want to put out for a proper new Barbour or Belstaff). I wear a 44L in Aerostich and suit jacket (long arms). Any advice appreciated.
Joe