and even better, as they are not particularly expensive :)

According to the old Hurt Report, 35% of helmet impacts occur in the chin area. Here is one discussion of this. So, if you do hit your head, you are likely to hit on the chin.

Have a look at the Caberg Justio GT or many of the Caberg's then if worried go to Sharp Test SHARP Helmets - THE HELMET SAFETY SCHEME & take it with a pinch of salt as some will say it is no good others use it as a guideline only, Pays your ££ make your choice.

I have the multitec Shoei and been in an accident where a 2 ton SUV skoda drove over me with me being stuck under it. Result separated shoulder, head injuries none, not even a headache (only some freaky morphine dreams in ICU).

So I bought a new one (white this time instead of silver as I found a promo for 30% off :))

This was on normal EU roads so no offroading or touring on long slow roads.

Going to have a look at the HCJ IS... I didn't see any reference to pin lock stuff... How do you deal with ice forming in the winter?

Carberg flip
 

Hi there i met old git RAy at Ripley and he had this helmet Caberg Sintesi - FREE UK DELIVERY
he told me it was the only filp that carried a pass sticker said that it could be used safely open
thanks
Doug

whoda thought?
 

This has certainly turned out to be a hot talking point. As I mentioned earlier for me the only choice was either jet, flip front or car. That said of the two helmets I have, Caberg Trip and Shark Evoline, the Shark is the only one I can ride around on at anything over 20mph with the chin bar up. The drag on the Caberg is just to uncomfortable and makes me feel as though some one is pushing my head backwards. If this link works then I hope the pic will show what the Shark is like with the chin bar up.
Helmet City Shark Evoline 'Moovit' White WKS
There are already pics of a Caberg trip with the chin bar in raised position. Although the Caberg is comfortable, I use it as a second spare helmet and at best it is only practical with the chin bar down or when you have stopped at the lights and need a fag without taking the damn thing off.
Just my oppinion of course but I hope it helps.
GM

I've had three of what I would call "big offs"

I went over the bonnet of a car when the idiot bint driver pulled out on me...

I went straight over the bonnet and all the front of my helmet (the chin area) was all scratched up. It took a lot of the impact when I hit the ground.

The second crash I had was offroad doing 70mph (stupid I know).. I was thrown off the bike and rolled a few times. The chin section was scratched then too. Id was obviously the prominent point sticking out when I rolled sideways...

I obviously can't say if I flip would of been fine because I wasn't wearing one, but for some to say to hit your chin is very unlikely, was in my case.. untrue..

For me, 2/3 crashes have caused chin damage to my helmet... That's why I won't wear a flip...

different strokes for different folks. Just relaying my own experience of my own offs. Always seem to hurt my wrists elbows and shoulders and head never seems to touch the ground.

Never had anything worse than a bruised knee from one of the many cars I've managed to steer round. Must be the superior peripheral vision afforded by my open face :innocent: :stormy::rofl:

Sorry guys, a sample of 2 away from controlled conditions proves nothing except your own preferences. HURT etc. were fair attempts at something better but are incomplete. The only things we know are:

a) Helmets are better than no-helmet
b) All helmets currently on sale with the correct EU stickers meet the basic requirements.

I did once have an odd rash down below, maybe I should start a thread about the evils of leather trousers in hot weather :oops2::rofl:

Andy

All of my crashes have been in full face helmets, so don't buy them, they cause accidents! :)

Thinking about it, everytime i've crashed I was wearing clothes too...

From now on, the only protection i'll use is a piano...


http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2010-05...3367770550.jpg

I have used a flip front for the past 5 years or so. Much nicer to wear in hot slow riding conditions...towns etc etc.
I started with the Shoei which was excellent. I've now replaced it with a Shark Evoline. The chin bar flips right back, and the Sun visor or the clear visor can be used one at a time or both together....unlike the Shoei. Once the chin bar was up the visor stayed up, which was a pain.
With the Shoei I found that with the chin bar down, the visor was literally right in your face. The Shark seems to have a bit more room between your chin and the visor....nicer in my opinion.

So the Shark just nudges it if I had to choose a favourite.

Hope that helps!

Some very useful suggestions (and amuzing anecdotes!), thanks one and all!

I'm going to look at / try on a Caberg Sintesi. It's not that expensive, has some excellent features and good reviews. The Schuberth C3 medium is too small for me, the large too big; no good fit, don't buy! The Shoei Multitech impacts on my temples a little too much - if I have to modify it before buying it (depressing the lining to take away the impact area), is it the right helmet? I also like the Caberg's internal visor.

I just wish Arai made flip fronts - I'd buy one in an instant!

There's too much choice! The only plus side is I need to decide in the next two weeks before I set off 'round Europe . . . .

:scooter:

Thanks for all the info. and suggestions; I've just bought a Wine Red Shoei Multitec. VERY plush, and does the job! :thumbup1:

Cheers again . . . .

You should read this rather damning report if you are contemplating a flip up helmet.