Belstaff RIP OFF.
 

Whilst looking for the Manchester Belstaff web details this popped up; belstaffjackets.co.uk
The full range at massive discounts. It looked too good to be true so I contacted Belstaff, sure enough, it's too good to be true. Nothing to do with Belstaff.com. They advised me not to use the site and have a warning on their own official web-site after lots of complaints.


Merry Christmas to all HU-ers.

thanks for the heads up.
ironically i wont buy belstaff stuff because their prices are virtually a rip-off!!

Funnily enough, I was expecting someone to say that.

Your choice.

Balstaff does seem to have become a fashion item these days...

John

In which case, if you avoid purchasing from the aforementioned site, you shall become neither a scam victim or a fashion victim.

true true. that shop in manchester has location, prices and styling for the cheshire set. went in there a few weeks ago looking scruffy and it felt like i was the only one in there who would be wearing a jacket whilst riding a bike.

Try E-bay. The ones at £45 work but are made to the price. My £99 one (made in Egypt) is my favourite bike jacket by miles. The ex-belstaff manufacturing people also have a website (google wax touring jacket etc.). Made to measure at the £150 mark, but don't expect fast service (my quote was four months and that after it took a month to get a reply). I know a few guys who have these and also love them.

Belstaff is now a fashion label pure and simple. The price reflects the cost of running city centre stores and the fact that footballers, soap stars and other fashion victims combine the retailers favourite atributes; cash and stupidity.

Some one is bound to relate how their Belstaff used to leak and they had to pay four and six for a hansome cab to get home. This is because Nikwax wasn't invented until after the Napoleonic wars and boiled up chimney sweep simply isn't effective (and leaves stains on the bulter). If you do intend to ride in wax cotton, treat it like your tent.

Andy

i have a barbour trail master jacket looks cool is retro but wouldnt want to fall off in it :scooter:

I saw wax cotton jacket at the NEC with body armour fitted, I cannot remember the name but might try one next, my overpriced Barbour might not be totally waterproof, but has already lasted longer than the two previous cordura jackets put together and when they started to leak they were unusable and there was nothing to do with them but throw them out.:thumbdown:

Will that be Claymore?
I found this and it seemed to match the description and look rather good too.
Wax cotton Tourmaster motorcycle jacket,english made on eBay (end time 01-Feb-11 10:45:53 GMT)

belstaff
 

I must admit i have been fancying a trialmaster jacket, however i'll stick with my 22yo barbour especially after seeing a piece on the BBC news about Egypt where the reporter was wearing one.
then tonight on top gear Jonathan Ross turned up in a belstaff and after the interview it cut away to James May who was also wearing a belstaff.

I still like the design but the now obvious fashion statement and associated price puts me well off

regards all

Gren

same reason why I've ordered one but given strict instructions that it isn't to have ANY labels on it, not even the Union flag.

Tim

I've just received the Claymore jacket and I'm rather impressed. Well made, measurements all bang on and I was proper dry when I rode up to London in the rain today!

Tima,

I was also looking at the Claymore jacket. A few questions if you don't mind:

1. How long did it take to make?

2. What is the construction quality like (ie quality of stitching / buttons etc)?

3. Did you get the version with armour and / or quilting - if so, what is it like?

Like my delightfully named co-purchaser, bellend, I too have been very impressed with the quality. I had a stack of extra measurements that i provided, including some rather diddly wrist and palm measurements. I have skinny wrists and my biggest complaint about most jackets is the loose fitting on the cuff. A longer neck meant i asked for a slightly deeper collar, and i had a nice large pocket fitted on the seat.

I'm a part timer at a fashion college and have a vague idea about decent garment construction, and this has it. The stitching is, as already stated, very good, the diamond stitch is nice and looks very neat. Sizing is bang on, close but sufficient space for me to get my heated vest on underneath it, over a shirt, tie and jumper. The point made about armour is important, the pockets are made to fit Knox equipment and are perfect.

Fixings and zips are high quality, waterproofing is good and i was told the brown comes with more wax on it than the black, just due to the supplier. All it needs is about 20 years of use and a couple of reptiles and it will be perfect. ;)

It was about 260 with armour and my specific pockets. It is an excellent piece of kit and I'm very happy, especially since it was made to measure in the UK. Very definitely recommended.

Reptiles? Bloody spellcheck. I meant reproofs! Mind you, the rear pocket could get a few big reptiles in it...

Claymore wouldn't answer the phone, didn't answer my e-mails and when they did, quoted a long wait. Sounds like they got their act together now though, this was last year.

The £99 one works and is perfect after a year. A chap I met with the £45 one thought it'd last a year but was happy that once proofed it was fine. It looked OK. This is only thick cotton, nothing high tech that would stop the Chinese making them. I've not seen any one with one since to compare 12 month old jackets with.

So, having spend £99 to be happy, assuming it'll be another couple of years before it'll be trashed, in 2013 I'll have to decide about spending £200+ with Claymore, £45 a year or another £99 with the Egyptians. The armour would indeed sway me towards Claymore but I think it really is a case of getting what you pay for.

Andy

Bellend,

For the benefit of all those who like this forum to be free from advertising, can you please confirm whether you have any connection to Claymore?

I find it interesting that you have only joined this forum in the last 24 hours and have made four posts about how great Claymore jackets are within that time.

This forum takes a dim view of people who try to advertise without seeking the approval of Grant in advance.

If this is not the case, my apologies, however until you make valid contributions to other sections of the forum, then I will be taking your statements about Claymore with a grain of salt.

NEVER MIND ABOUT GRANT, I TAKE A DIM VIEW OF PEOPLE THAT HI-JACK MY THREADS ABOUT TOP QUALITY, STYLISH AND FASHIONABLE BELSTAFF JACKETS THAT, IN MY OPINION, ARE GREAT VALUE FOR MONEY AND BEAUTIFULLY MADE, JUST SO THEY CAN YAK ON ABOUT TUPPENNY-HALFPENNY EGYPTIAN DROSS OR OTHER CHEAP IMITATIONS.
:nono:

Try this Australian brand, Kakadu. £130

Kakadu Australia 4J42 Nelson Jacket

Wax Cotton Jackets
 

I thought I'd bump this thread and post some pics of the Frank Thomas Wax Jacket I bought at the beginning of the winter.

I ride a Triumph Scrambler and I wanted a cool retro jacket but didn't want to spend £500. A search on the net and I found this offering. I've been wearing it now for three months and it is bullet proof and beautifully made. All for just £160 and it comes with armour too.

The pics shown here are after a ride over Dartmoor in the p***ing rain - hence it looks soaked;

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5279400/Saff...ket/ft_wet.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5279400/Saff...et/ft_wet2.jpg

Any help to find this bargain?

Interesting thread, thanks.

I am trying to decide between the Frank Thomas and the Sunstuff six days. The price of the Frank Thomas is better.

1. What is the cotton quality of the Frank Thomas, can't find that anywhere (Sunstuff is 12 oz)?

2. Any more long term user experiences / suggestions regarding the Frank Thomas jacket?