BMW GS - What Hitler would say - Page 2

**onlyMark** · #16 22 Apr 2008

Walkabout - the problem is that Hitler spoke German with an Austrian accent, or so I believe. Plus the actor playing him is Swiss.
Schweitzerdeutsch (if the actor actually speaks normally like that) I can barely understand.
So - you have a Swiss actor playing an Austrian speaking German.
That's my theory, I could be way off though.

**javkap** · #17 22 Apr 2008

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Originally Posted by Stephano

The film also broke a taboo in Germany in that it portrays Hitler as 'human' with depth of character rather than a 'monster'.

Stephan

Hitler never can be considerer as a human. Never ever, maybe only if you only are looking for the most terrifying and insane part of the human been….
Sorry but I don’t want to miss this point on the funny comments about the most hilarious video about bikes in youtube.

Saludos.

**Stephano** · #18 23 Apr 2008

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Originally Posted by javkap

Hitler never can be considerer as a human. Never ever, maybe only if you only are looking for the most terrifying and insane part of the human been….
Sorry but I don’t want to miss this point on the funny comments about the most hilarious video about bikes in youtube.

Saludos.

Peace, Javier. It was not my intention to spoil your enjoyment of the video or to be an apologist for Adolf Hitler. Interest was expressed in the source film and I provided some background on its making.

I am very proud of my grandfather, and most proud that he and his generation sacrificed 5 years of their lives to rid the world of Nazism. The fact remains that Hitler was a person, and people have proved themselves repeatedly to be capable of extreme cruelty and brutality. At the same time, such ‘monsters’ can be loved by millions as well as family and acquaintances who know them closely. This indicates a more complex make-up than pure evil although it does not excuse the inhumanity.

In the context of German history, it was a brave decision to make Der Untergang. The film certainly does not show Hitler in a favourable manner simply because he exhibits a range of emotions. Ultimately, I feel your reaction only serves to prove what a courageous film it is.
Stephan

**henryuk** · #19 23 Apr 2008

It's never been PC to show Hitler in anything other than evil in a black and white sense, along with anything he was connected to, especially in Germany and I agree that it was a brave move on the part of the film makers to maintain some balance in his portrayal. No attempt has been made to glorify or justify the man, which would be in very poor taste to say the least.

It has been impossible since WW2 for anyone to adopt any of the tenets of National Socialism, despite the fundamental political principles that brought Germany out of the crisis following reparations and placed her in a leading economic position being quite effective, and having no connection to genocide, murder or aggressive military action. Certainly a state that actively creates jobs, can rapidly improve national infrastructure and motivates its individuals so successfully could teach us something today. Same as communism has nothing in its founding principles about rounding up Tartars and sending them to the gulags.

Political success leads to power, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely so any system that gives absolute success (which we all want) will corrupt absolutely and leave us with the Stalins, Hitlers (and dare I say it the Bush-Cheneys? time will tell..) of the world. I guess we are all buggered.

**mattpope** · #20 23 Apr 2008

Come on guys, lighten up! While I don't like the current (and most of the other sixties onwards US governments) you can't really compare Bush and Cheney to Stalin and Hitler. Without going way off topic these guys do not have any intentions to wipe out entire races.

This was such a funny video it really doesn't need to get political. What I really want to know is who took the VFR in the first place.

**spooky** · #21 23 Apr 2008

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Originally Posted by Walkabout

Just watched it again: quite right about the translation, but what language is Herr Hitler speaking in anyway?

He was Austrian.... not even a German citizen..... and had this slang that rise the hair of your neck..... an bit like Arnold if he calls his mom.... if you understand the words........

see my comment regarding the GS...

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...llarious-34738

**mattcbf600** · #22 23 Apr 2008

Although frankly then the thread would never have been started....

Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**spooky** · #23 23 Apr 2008

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Originally Posted by mattcbf600

Although frankly then the thread would never have been started....

Right...... OK, excuse my German in this case...

but if I understand the Godwin's law right... and I like the fact that you pointed it out.... thanks for that...

well if we so go back to the essence of the video clip.... for instance cutting out the Hitler related stuff... (may the middle man), you will get a pile of old rusty crap (may will say about the rival of the VFR and GS ?)... well if we get to the core of the problem or rival of the "Honda VFR" and the "BMW GS" fan club's right.... and if so..

Godwin's law would say... (as far I understand) well I hope not to get lost in translation here....
well will say that the hole issue between Honda and BMW would not have risen such attention in public, as it did with this brilliant clip, if some genius would not have used the term of taking a Nazi/Hitler thing and blend it up with some modern day fan club joke right ?

In that case we would not have got together and had a good laugher about the hole thing...