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RogerM 3 Aug 2006 22:02

Temporary Imports to Australia
 
In accordance with the provisions of certain international conventions on road traffic, Australia recognises the temporary import of vehicles for a period of less than 12 months by visiting foreign nationals of signatory countries who hold a visitor's visa.

In this category vehicles may be allowed entry in one of two ways:
  1. By presenting a valid Carnet de Passage en Duane at port of entry to Australia, in which case no Vehicle Import Approval is required (Note: a vehicle must have sufficient registration cover from the person's home country to cover the period of the temporary import).
  2. By submitting an application to import a vehicle accompanied by a copy of a current overseas registration document valid for the period of the visit and passport pages showing nationality, personal details and valid Australian visitor's visa.
If you are travelling on a "Temporary Resident" Visa then you are not eligible to import your vehicle under (b) above.

$50.00 application fee (for category (b) above), purchase document, current overseas registration document valid for the period of the visit, passport pages showing nationality, and Australian visitor's visa.

Light at the end of the tunnel, no local registration required.
You need to download the application form VSB10 from http://www.dotars.gov.au/transport/s...VSB10_Form.pdf
and the explanatory leaflet from http://www.dotars.gov.au/transport/s.../pdf/VSB10.pdf


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Vaufi 18 Aug 2006 01:59

I have just undergone the whole procedure in Perth 2 weeks ago. I entered on te Carnet basis.

The most important issue is to have the vehicle in a very clean condition. Especially the underside, mudguards, tyres are inspected by the quarantine office. So make sure to have it well cleaned before getting it ready for freight.

The fees in Oz (applies to Western Australia) are as follows:

1. The freighter (Quantas in my case) asked 125 AUD handling charge.
2. Customs were free.
3. Quarantine inspection (AQIS) wanted 90 AUD
4. The vehicle inspection centre cost me 60 AUD This was necessary in order to get my bike registered. A kind of roadworthiness test.
5. Licensing office charged me 80 AUD. This included the mandatory 3rd party insurance.

Normally you do not need to have your vehicle registered, when entering a country on a temporary import basis, but for Oz this is compulsory. You do not register it in the general sense, getting an Oz registration no., but your registration no is entered in the computer system.

In Perth the freighters are all near the international airport, so is of course customs and quarantine. Quantas is situated in the Affleck Rd. The vehicle inspection can be done in Perth East, 20 Bronte St. The licensing deptm is in the Sutherland St. Streetmap can be aquired at the inspection centre.

To get to the international airport there are two possibilities: taxi or shuttle. No public transport. Shuttle can be booked under phone (08) 1300 666 806.

RogerM 21 Aug 2006 18:37

Vaufi, I've just read that Western Australia does not accept any other Australian State's "overseas registered vehicle permit", can you check your permit and see if it is valid outside of Western Australia?

I'm just wondering how the hell you get an overseas regsitered vehicle permit when crossing into WA from South Australia or the Northern Territory - theres nothing for miles!

MurrayS 21 Aug 2006 20:23

Roger, My wife and I are importing our bikes under Carnet into Sydney. As I see it, EVERY state requires An 'Overseas Registered Vehicle Permit' to be purchased seperatley, for that particular state!
The 'Permit' is simply 3rd party insurance, as I understand it.
If the cost of the inspection is $60 and the 'permit' is $80 per state, it all begins to look alittle ridiculous.
Ridiculous laws need to be ignored.
Do the right thing, as we intend to do.
Once your bike has cleared customs, and the nice customs man gives you the address of the Reistry office, point your bike in the other direction and leg it!

RogerM 22 Aug 2006 11:15

Where I live in Queensland an unregistered, uninsured vehicle gets its number plates removed on the spot, and the coppers can impound the vehicle until the owner fixes up the problem. The "on the spot hooning" laws have given a lot of power to the coppers, just be very wary of being stopped by the police as your vehicle/bike will immediately come up as unregistered and uninsured when they do a rego check in the national database.

Remember that third party injury insurance is compulsory in all Australian States - its not for you, but the person you may injure. If you do have an accident and injure someone, you may condemn them or their family to a life of poverty because you dont want to buy insurance.

RGADRIANI 24 Aug 2006 17:51

Following on from Roger's prior point, I did also read about each state requiring separate insurance. However, last year I e-mailed the WA authorities and told them I was planning to take insurance in Darwin NT - they said that would be fine and nothing more was required in WA. Sadly I have deleted the e-mail.

Also when we took out the insurance had bikes inspected in Darwin they felt that their third party insurance was valid for all of Australia.

Would also add that the whole process in Darwin was very efficient. Our bikes were unpacked from the container, inspected and cleared by quarantine (AQIS), cleared by customs, inspected for roadworthiness and insured on the same day. sydney could be a different matter.

Vaufi 27 Aug 2006 04:25

Sorry for not answering, but I was travelling through the bush - no cell net, no internet ;-)

I asked the WA licensing authorities if the 3rd party insurance I purchased in Perth would be valid for all of Oz. She couldn't tell me. She believes, yes. So that means I'll be travelling, happily believing I'm covered ;-) Additionally to that I've still got my German 3rd party insurance and was told that it's valid for Oz as well. So, no worries... But I suppose everybody has to decide that for himself.

MurrayS 9 Sep 2006 05:50

An update
 
After arriving in Sydney, we waited a couple of days and our bikes were duly released from Customs and Quarantine.
We decided to take Roger's advice, and get a TIVP (temporary imported vehicle permit) and hope that this would cover us for the other states as well.
So off to Botany RTA, and hand over the Carnet's etc. The lady behind the desk took one look at the Carnet's and said " Oh look, I've hit the jackpot! I've never seen one of these before!"
Not a good start. Anyway, after looking up the info she had on her screen, consulting with some colleagues, and ringing head office on the 'Help Line', she told us that we don't need a permit anymore, just the Carnet's and current rego in the country of origin.
We then showed her a copy of the info we had printed of the NRMA website, back home, that said we did need the permit, saftey inspection and CTP insurance. After having a good read, she asked us where we got it from. When we told her "the web", she said " I think your NZ web is out of date" !!??
So, what do we do now? Any Suggestions? Should we try another RTA?
Surely the Botany RTA, being one of the larger offices in Sydney, and the closest to Australia's largest port, would know how to handle this?
Can we buy some CTP Insurance without the TIVP?
Any help appreciated. In the meantime, we ride on, secure in the knowledge that Betty, from Botany RTA, said it would be OK!

Frank Warner 11 Sep 2006 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by MurrayS
we ride on, secure in the knowledge that Betty, from Botany RTA, said it would be OK!

Umm Hope you have Bettys last name...

On the 'third party insurance' - yes you have to have it, and having got it in one state it is valid in the other states.

As for the registration .. it would be good news if they finally have realised their overseas obligations and have stoped that stuff about inspections and plates etc...

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The carnet has nothing to do with registration, insurance ... it is a customs thing...
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I'll do some ringing around latter.

Frank Warner 11 Sep 2006 06:14

Rang the RTA NSW -

If the vehicle is regoed overseas and that is current then no problem. Must carry and display the rego plates and country oval.. but that is all. If it becomes unregistered while here it must them be registered here.. This is what I think is stipulated by 'our' overseas agreements .. so things are good.

Third party insurance (personal) is covered by the nominal defendant (government takes it on the chin)... That is a bonus! Note that the government may come after you .. not a good thing.

So ... in NSW at least ... very easy indeed.
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Ok ... there are several issues

1) Getting the bike into Australia -
Customs thing .. DOTARs etc .. carnet .. Temporary importation etc
2) Quarantine
Bike has to be really clean to stop bugs and things getting here ...
3) Registration
must be 'road worthy' as demonstrated by a registration ...
4) Minimum insurance
In NSW this is third party personal ..

Items 1 and 2 are handled by the 'federal' government - Australia wide so it should be the same anywhere in the country.

Items 3 and 4 are 'state' government so may vary form one place to the other. However if you start in one state and meet their requirements you should be able to travel from state to state... maybe.

Nigel Marx 11 Sep 2006 22:18

Good luck with the ride Murray. When you get back, show me the pictures and tell the stories!

Regards

Nigel in NZ

MurrayS 13 Sep 2006 04:03

Frank, Thanks for your research. We are now inYackandandah Vic, and have had no problems. Hopefully the local cops are as up to date with the new import laws as you are!
Most of them seem preoccupied with the Phillip Island crowd to be bothered with us, long may it last.
Nigel, we may not be home for a while, we see ourselves here for 6-12months before shipping to Timor, then who knows where. Though business matters may force us home for a short while towards december.
Which posses another obsticle. The Carnets don't allow us to travel out of the country without the bikes. The guy from the AA in NZ who issued them told us this, then said ... "but in the real world, people do."
Are we best just to jump the plane and not mention the Carnet's?
We would probably be back within a week or so.
Our Shipping agent in Sydney had us courier the Carnet's ahead of us, so he could clear the bikes, ready for us, so maybe we could just sneak out and back in again without attracting too much attention?
Kathy is working on our website. kathyandmurray.com It may not be up yet, but will be soon.

Frank Warner 13 Sep 2006 04:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by MurrayS
Hopefully the local cops are as up to date with the new import laws

The local cops .. or even non local cops won't bother you if you don't bother them. No crashes please ... or none that make work for them.
Quote:

Originally Posted by MurrayS
maybe we could just sneak out and back in again without attracting too much attention?

Yep. Provided there is nothing in the passport about the vehicles .. they do put them in in some countries. Best if they don't - enables some 'flexablity'

Vaufi 26 Nov 2006 00:27

I just met a Swiss girl who imported her bike on a carnet basis to Perth for half a year. The bloody beaurocrats in the licensing department in Perth forced her to register her bike with an Oz numberplate. Can you imagine such bullshit ?#@*&!!

Besides that - she had her bike shipped to Freemantle where she was told that she can only get it through customs in Perth itself. So she had to find a freighter who transported the bike to Perth. And for these few k's he charged her 800 AUD .....

Hans

ArcticHarleyMan 28 Nov 2006 04:47

So, by reading the original post, I can either take our bikes to Australia without a carnet, or with a carnet. Is that the gist of the thing? And if we don't have carnets, then we must have sufficient insurance (is that our home insurance or insurance we purchase in Australia), the registration from our home country and the bills of lading and bills of sale with us.
Is that right?? If so, then are there any taxes we have to pay upon entering with our bikes?


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