Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > 4 wheels > 4 wheel Overland Travel
4 wheel Overland Travel NON-technical 4 wheel forum, for subjects specific to TRAVEL with 4 (or more!) wheeled vehicles. e.g. Driving Techniques, Shipping etc.
Photo by Ellen Delis, Lagunas Ojos del Campo, Antofalla, Catamarca

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Ellen Delis,
Lagunas Ojos del Campo,
Antofalla, Catamarca



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 7 May 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cairo
Posts: 304
I think your question from my post was answered. So yes, you can carry 275kg.
Imagine when you're packing that it isn't a car, imagine you're going two up on a CG125. If ever you want to know how to keep things lightweight, you're on the right forum.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 7 May 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,232
is that unladen weight or kerb weight, which would include the driver?
for weight and access tuperware rules! plastic crates and boxes are very light and make loading a lot easier. unlike bin bags items are protected and you can see whats in them. The really useful box company makes a great selection of placcy boxes
__________________
1990 Landcruiser H60. Full rebuild completed 2014
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 7 May 2011
Neil's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London, UK
Posts: 179
Quote:
Originally Posted by onlyMark View Post
I think your question from my post was answered. So yes, you can carry 275kg.
Imagine when you're packing that it isn't a car, imagine you're going two up on a CG125. If ever you want to know how to keep things lightweight, you're on the right forum.
Having just crossed Africa on a DRZ with soft luggage, I'd say I'm pretty clued up on lightweight packing.

Does anyone know if there are there any fuel carriers/tanks about for inside a car on the market? As in, not necessarily a jerry can..... something that can be like a metre wide or so, that could be strapped down inside the car, under everything else ... but be filled by a hose or something?
__________________
Neil's in... (the website)
Also you can follow me on Neil's in... on FaceBook, Neilisin on YouTube,
@NeilSnaps on Instagram or NeilisTweetin Twitter.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 8 May 2011
Neil's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London, UK
Posts: 179
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil View Post
Having just crossed Africa on a DRZ with soft luggage, I'd say I'm pretty clued up on lightweight packing.

Does anyone know if there are there any fuel carriers/tanks about for inside a car on the market? As in, not necessarily a jerry can..... something that can be like a metre wide or so, that could be strapped down inside the car, under everything else ... but be filled by a hose or something?
Would one of these do the trick as a fuel tank?
caravan motorhome GREY WATER 900 x 300 x 300 (80 LITRE) | eBay UK
__________________
Neil's in... (the website)
Also you can follow me on Neil's in... on FaceBook, Neilisin on YouTube,
@NeilSnaps on Instagram or NeilisTweetin Twitter.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 8 May 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: J10 M40 UK
Posts: 362
Major rule dont carry fuel esp petrol inside vehicle

if you must carry extra fuel then in jerrycan in bracket on outside of vehicle. In many countries this is illegal as well . If you overload , and have an accident your insurer will not accept claim . Not trying to be a party pooper but you dont want any extra problems JMHO
__________________
Current : 2007 Mowag Bucher Duro 6x6 Motorhome , 2006 Sedici 4x4, 2007 Range Rover supercharged
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 8 May 2011
Neil's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London, UK
Posts: 179
Quote:
Originally Posted by tacr2man View Post
Major rule dont carry fuel esp petrol inside vehicle

if you must carry extra fuel then in jerrycan in bracket on outside of vehicle. In many countries this is illegal as well . If you overload , and have an accident your insurer will not accept claim . Not trying to be a party pooper but you dont want any extra problems JMHO
I'm getting conflicting advice here. I have to keep the weight down low, but shouldn't carry the fuel inside? ... I guess I should convert this car into a pick-up. with a roof-rack.
__________________
Neil's in... (the website)
Also you can follow me on Neil's in... on FaceBook, Neilisin on YouTube,
@NeilSnaps on Instagram or NeilisTweetin Twitter.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 9 May 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: NSW Australia
Posts: 139
Sorry mate this rule about carrying fuel inside doesn't apply in Aus. or if it does is overlooked. Your only option would be the roof-rack as I cant see a place for the bracket. That tank you mention. if up to fuel spec. and installed professionally and boxed in ? maybe , ask your insurer if this would suffice.
Maybe check if a bigger fuel tank will fit, sometimes there is room.
Whats your budget on prepping the car ?
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 18 May 2011
Neil's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London, UK
Posts: 179
Quote:
Originally Posted by twobob View Post
Sorry mate this rule about carrying fuel inside doesn't apply in Aus. or if it does is overlooked. Your only option would be the roof-rack as I cant see a place for the bracket. That tank you mention. if up to fuel spec. and installed professionally and boxed in ? maybe , ask your insurer if this would suffice.
Maybe check if a bigger fuel tank will fit, sometimes there is room.
Whats your budget on prepping the car ?
Thanks for all your advice, I'm going to hold off further planning until January-February.
__________________
Neil's in... (the website)
Also you can follow me on Neil's in... on FaceBook, Neilisin on YouTube,
@NeilSnaps on Instagram or NeilisTweetin Twitter.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 18 May 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Leicestershire,UK, or in my Iveco Daily 4x4
Posts: 474
Tom Sheppard uses jerrycans stored low in the centre of his merc g wagon (photos in one of his books)

Strapped down of course, and it is diesel, I would not do that with petrol but your chosen steed is diesel so not so much of an issue.

If you get an extra tank fitted it should be to fuel spec if plastic (don't assume a water tank can be used) and arrange to fill it outside the vehicle otherwise you will live with the stink of spilled diesel
__________________
Rich

Iveco Turbo Daily 4x4 40-10
Ex Owner LR101 300Tdi Ambi 'Tiggurr'
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 14 Feb 2013
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil View Post
I'm intending on doing something very similar to the Mongol Rally without participating in the event, in a 400-500cc car and at my leisure. Ultimately, selling the vehicle on once in Ulan Bator.
Hi Neil

Have you done this yet? We're more than happy to offer any advice if you would like to give us a call or drop us an email.

Last year there were at least 4 groups who tried to do this without first researching the cost of importing their vehicle into Mongolia. PLEASE do your research first as most do not realise it is a hell of a lot cheaper (and a lot less hassle) to do this with the Rally than to try and import the vehicles themselves.

In 2012 we saw the Czech embassy bailing out one couple attempting to do this, another who lost several thousands of dollars attempting to import and sell their large and old 4x4, one turned away at the Mongolian border who were then charged a fine for returning to Russia after being stamped out, and one more who abandoned their vehicle that may or may not realise they'll be arrested if they ever return - Mongolian customs failed to get them on the way out (they mistakenly came to us first thinking that it might be on our Rally).

Not a sales pitch, I just don't want to see the same situations we tend to see a few times each year when people come to us asking for help importing their vehicles because they weren't aware of the import cost.

[Was hoping to insert a link to current import costs for Mongolia, but nowhere seems to have uptodate information. If you drop us an email we can tell you the current costs.]

Rob (Mongol Rally Event Manager)
mongolrally@theadventurists.com
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 15 Feb 2013
Neil's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London, UK
Posts: 179
Rob, I decided to concentrate my efforts on a far more worthy cause, besides this was 2011. After researching, I concluded Mongolia would be far more appreciated on 2 wheels.
__________________
Neil's in... (the website)
Also you can follow me on Neil's in... on FaceBook, Neilisin on YouTube,
@NeilSnaps on Instagram or NeilisTweetin Twitter.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A suggestion for a new topic Hindu1936 Trip Paperwork 2 6 Jun 2008 07:59
I can't see my topic??? qwer1234 North Africa 2 10 Mar 2006 18:06
OFF TOPIC - NEW YORK Renato Braz North America 0 9 Apr 2003 03:23
new BB topic idea mika Website Feedback 0 2 Jul 2002 08:27
Closed Topic Fuchur Travellers' Advisories, Safety and Security on the Road 3 17 Feb 2002 03:29

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 20:03.