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Loading a motorcycle into the rear of an expedition truck

Hi

I am in the planning stages of an expedition camper.

I originally planned to have a platform on the rear of the vehicle ( MB 1017 ) that would hold the spare tyres and a motorcycle ( Transalp style )

I am now thinking that it would be alot more secure if these were actually housed within the rear of the box cabin and were loaded either via a large rear locker opening or via a side locker opening.

My problem is working out how to get a 160 KG motorcycle into the rear of the cabin which will be 1.5 meters off the ground.

I am thinking of at crane sytems or long ramps.

I am sure that this is a problem that has been discussed before .

If anyone has any solutions, especially with diagrams or pictures i would be very grateful and it might point me in the right direction

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bike hitch

Hi Neil

Here in Australia some of the "Grey Nomads" ( retired farts) use a hitch system on the back of their campers for their motor bikes. Most are supplied by a company called Hitchmate. Maybe you have something similar in the UK. Have a look at their website, you may get some ideas.

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Thanks

We have similar product here.

I am hoping to conceal the bike entirely within the cabin of the truck, I just cant work out the best way of lifting it in there

Neil
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Thanks

We have similar product here.

I am hoping to conceal the bike entirely within the cabin of the truck, I just cant work out the best way of lifting it in there

Neil

Can you get a smaller/lighter bike you could carry?

You can usually enlist the help of locals wherever you are to help with lifting for a small price...

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Van Crane

You see lots of small trucks (tyre depot, road maintenance etc) with this type of thing fitted. Not necessarily electric so ignore the silly price. I guess it would be pretty easy to fabricate a copy with a manual winch as well.
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Thanks for the links and advice.

I can't really go smaller with the bike as it needs to carry two of us and we are not 20 anymore.

I like the look of the crane arm and think that this is the route I will go. I probably would have a hand winch instead of the electric one.

Thanks

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Westfalia have a range of electric and hand cranked winches.


Search at Westfalia Mail Order UK

Good luck

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What about a taillift from a commercial - depends if you've got the available weight for it but you could probabily shorten it
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Just a thought as regards a crane, wind up or electric. You say you are not now going to drop it on the load bed but have it inside somewhere.
If you have a crane, will it swing to inside as well?
It's not very helpful if you can lift the bike, but then it's left swinging up in the air and you can't roll it inside.
If you see what I mean.
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winch

I have one of these for lifting my spare wheel, cheap and cheerful.

Superwinch LT2000 12v DC Winch 907kg Pull - Machine Mart

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could you not just use a beam that slides out with a lifting winch on it, lift bike to desired height then slide beam back inside, much like the things you get for removing engines from cars. You could always make a baseplate with a bike stand, roll bike onto that secure then lift and slide in, to make it more stable.
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All great ideas

The bike will end up transverse in therear of the truck, I think the winch / crane method needs to be explored more

thanks for all the advice

Neil
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Hi Neil, this was discussed here about a year ago.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-vehicle-39971

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horse trailer

How does one get a 500kg horse into a trailer truck?? Right let it walk up a ramp.

One could think of the same for a bike. 1.5 meter is not that high and I assume the truck living unit will be some 2 meters high which gives you a 2 meter ramp length already. If you can think of extending the 2 meter by using a double hinge with a ground support in the middle, giving you a 4 meter ramp, then you will have a moderate angel (22 degr) and sufficient width to drive the bike in (approx 0.8 meter; the width of storage area is dictated by the width of handle bars) and out backwards with brakes engaged. Or, if you want to go really crazy, have the same set up on the other side too so you can drive one side and out on the other side.

You will need some solid gas dampers on the door and some anti slip surface, like the horse trailer. Actual seen a setup like this where the bike was stored outside between cabin and living unit. The ramp was a loose steel ladder. No need for complex constructions.
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Saw this at Bad Kissingen last year..
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