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roamingyak 26 Sep 2007 17:30

Landy tubeless rims?
 
Land Rover do some tubeless steel wheels now and I'm considering going tubeless due to the high cost of good quality tubes.

Are the landy wheels ok? Any known problems? Anything better? With Michelin 7.50 R16 XZY's?

I realise that Wolf wheels are highly recomended, but from memory they are heavier and thicker? As I put one on the bonnet I'd like it no thicker than the LR wheels are.

Many thanks again!

jasper110 26 Sep 2007 19:05

yes they are heavier but only slightly thicker. i carried a second spare on my bonnet and noticed no difference to the previous steel rims. on the weight side, my tubeless wolf rims with a michelin xzy 's weigh near 30kg apiece.

jasper110 26 Sep 2007 19:22

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here's pic. michelin xzy, wolf rim on bonnet

Rebaseonu 26 Sep 2007 21:18

Yes, Wolf rims are heavier and thicker (from my head they are almost twice as thick as standard). Also they are 6,5" wide versus classic 5,5". Good for say 235/85R16 tires.

roamingyak 26 Sep 2007 21:52

So not so good for 7.50 R16's? I'd like to know the weight difference if anybody has any ideas?

I know I would have to change the bolts as well on the wheels as they will be too short.

Any comments on the Land Rover tubless tyres?

mattsavage 26 Sep 2007 22:26

I think the wolf rims (fine for 7.50 x 16) are about 13kg each. And I guess standard landy wheels are a few kgs lighter.
looking on my list, all the standard steel wheels (5.5 and 6.5) are for tubed tyres (strange?). And the wolf rim is available as tubed or tubeless. A tubeless wolf rim is about £60 inc vat.
Standard landy rim (5.5) is about £35.00 inc vat.
Go wolf tubeless, you know it makes sense!!!

Bye..

Ps, for anyone interested, Prosecco in Lidl has gone up! It's now about £3.50 per bottle. Darn!! Gone are the cheap days of drinking....

mattsavage 26 Sep 2007 22:30

oh, I forgot to say. Longer studs are available. I can't remember the part number and it's a pain to look up. But I guess they're £2 or £3 each. You need 20!!
Best to have them, but you can get away without.

Cheers,
Matt

jasper110 27 Sep 2007 08:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by roamingyak.org (Post 152114)
So not so good for 7.50 R16's?

ever single current military landrover (wolf) that has wolf rims has 7.50 r16 tyres (goodyear G90).

if your wheel studs have a groove across the end of them then they are long enough for the wolf rims.

Richard K 27 Sep 2007 15:16

Tubeless rims
 
My Def. came with TL rims direct from Land Rover SV, I believe, but not the wolf type. The 8-spoke type seem tough enough and are always on ebay for pennies.

Not sure about the round-holed 'modular' type?

FreeCaRveR 28 Sep 2007 18:40

and every single 130 has factory standard wolf rims and 750 as well.
wolf rim's is your choice.strong as hell,never ever bended a wolf one.(can't say that for the rest)

roamingyak 29 Sep 2007 10:09

OK, it seems Wolf's are the way to go. A little bit wary of being able to replace one along the way if needed, and extra weight isn't needed, but at least 4 out of the 6 will have their weight in a very good position.

They do have the advantage of looking a little bit sexier as well ;-)

Costs:
£192 = 12 times Michelin tubes (£16 each)
£ 60 = Change all old tubes to new ones and keep 6 spares
£252 = Total

or

£282 = 6 times either Wolf wheels or LR tubeless wheels (£47 each)
(My landy place will swap the wheels over and keep my landy rims in exchange)
£32 = Two tubes to take
£314 = Total

Richard K 29 Sep 2007 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by roamingyak.org (Post 152458)
extra weight isn't needed, but at least 4 out of the 6 will have their weight in a very good position.


Excellent position for stability - but not so good for the drivechain!

Where did you find Wolf rims for £47 ?

roamingyak 29 Sep 2007 16:18

Paddocks have OE ones:
http://www.paddockspares.com/sp/cate...el_Wheels.html

or Dunsfold who I use for my landy stuff said the same price - I believe they are LR ones if there is any difference?
www.dunsfold.com

Still, I need a new rear axle so wheels will have to wait for a while now....

diesel jim 29 Sep 2007 22:27

It's a lot of money though Darrin, for a set of wheels which you already have (OK, not wolf type heavy duty ones).

but have you bent many of your standard 110 rims? there's thousands of them out there working away no problem, plenty in the desert too i'd imagine.

maybe spend your hard earned on a shiny disk braked salisbury instead?

Andrew Baker 29 Sep 2007 22:36

Hi Darrin,

I went tubeless with XZY's but my rims are not Wolf, rather LR standard type plain rims but tubeless. The part number is stamped on the rim if you need it. I got them from VASS with brand new XZY's on for £75+vat each. They are not thick like Wolf so you do not need long studs (mine are short studs). As for weight, dunno - the tyre is very heavy by itself. With a Wolf rim you officially need long studs, but I've seen them fitted to short studs and they pass the MOT ok.

VASS sell cheaper XZY's in varying mileages, as well as brand new with tubeless rim.

One word of advice - mine needed a LOT of balance weights fitted by the local Quickfit - the high weight meant that driving out of balance rims was very unpleasant, so get them balanced regardless after purchase.

Cheers,

Andrew.


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